I believe every generation is significant and has a divine purpose. I was at the tail end of the Beatnik gen - I saw them moving enlightening viewpoints into the mainstream to wake people up but they were more laid back. Then, here we come, taking to the streets and blatantly waving our points of view in everyone's faces and really shaking things up. Unfortunately, what you judge you become and we fell into the same trap Big Brother did - "fight for what you believe in". In my meditations, I was shown that first you have to create the enemy that you then fight. I think now that we've "grown up" and have experience/knowledge we can see a better way. What you believe in you grant reality to. The more people who buy into a belief the stronger it becomes. I believe we need to train our minds to focus on the reality we prefer, the vision we all hold so dear - equality for all, love and peace and not give our power to Big Brother, seeing that collective as a bunch of weak minded fearful souls who have totally lost connection with Source/Love. It's pitiful! I saw in a vision that the stronger our collective gets, the other will just melt away like the Wicked Witch of the West. Thanks to "them", we learned about mind control. We don't need to take to the streets anymore if we don't want to, we need to network our version of reality and live it, not just say it. How many of us can hold the frequency of love and compassion for all beings? I was also shown the "pebble in the pond effect" - we drop the pebble of Love into the collective pond and it ripples out to all. The earth has a crystalline latticework inside her. We know that crystals are thought form amplifiers. When we flow Love/Light into the Earth, she transmits it all over. I see and feel the frequency raising. This focus is my mission that I was given when I went to the Light in 1989. We walk the razor's edge, the line between yin/yang. I do fall off but now I know my way Home. We truly are blessed and we are not alone in our divine mission.
I had a vision last night that concurs with this. We don't need to take to the streets to spread the word. The NET our fellow hippies created, that we access via the PCs that our fellow hippies invented, are all here now for us to use to connect and organize and inspire. These highly technological representations of the TRUE reality (we are all part of ONE NETWORK), are at our service too. They're not just for fascists to use. They embody our spirit of freedom and equality to such an extent that THEY can't control it (yet). They're still only beginning to grasp the power, the potential and the implications of such an advanced concept. So we must grab this opportunity to use it for the benefit of all, not just the powerful. When you said "we need to network our version of reality and live it, not just say it" you hit the nail on the head. What we can do right here with this group of Old Hippies is SHOW the young ones here "Where it's at!" By that I mean who we are, how we relate to each other, how we respect and inspire each other! We couldn't do that with so many from the "outside" coming into our threads and derailing, distorting or discouraging us from spreading the message that we are BACK and ready to CHANGE THE WORLD. Yes, there is no need for outright violent revolution, only internal evolution, one person at a time... Can we agree on that?
Umm I think most of us agree that most coming into hippy came seeking Every one us on different roads of life As we watch an get involved.....we see it We may not understand ....but lets face it .....lot of us didn't understand our world We are still learning....an still confused as hell WE still drag our 'baggages' with us.... so to speak ....even though we keep trying get rid of some of our excess 'baggage' It is not an easy road for some I feel that 'we' who came or returned an stayed in 'hippy' here Agree.....something has kept us coming back here We are 'gathering' it is happening Some of us don't really know who, what, when or how to help..... til that 'moment' I for one may be dragging my tail.....but where do I go on internet besides few other places almost every day Right here..... Okay I think I lost my 'focus' of subject LOL I'm here because I chose to be Many folks here know those 'roads' from their past.....they find where they are needed Or I should say 'find our selves dropped into' then we wonder.....was I suppose to be here at that said time......hmmmm The 'hidden' thing we are not sure of .....seems to pull us ....sometimes we end up not where we thought we were going.....but there we are To sum it up.....We are here sitting at the computer reading an or typing away Waiting for that 'moment' Our need or theirs To show our love An to recieve it as well This place called 'Hippy.com' Hipforums 'Hipplanet' etc Is the place where WE can..... 'Stand up for our Rights' Hugs with love
When Divine Energy came down on us from the cosmos, enighting a flame inside us.. driving us to create change, we responded.. it did not seek out the plastic or unreal.. it settled into the ones that were ready to be inlightened.. the ones that could understand the need for change and bring it about by action/deed. The Beatnicks carried the message and wrote it in song and verse..They were not much for the physical, as they were pasifest..they were the Hipsters they were Hip. They ones comeing up under them, Us knock offs ( hippies), were the warriors so to speak.. we put it out there, we screamed it from the rooftops.. we wailed it out on our guitars.. we banded together and stood firm in our convitctions, we were their Army.. they were our leaders. The Ginsburgs, the Kuracks (sp), the Alperts, the poet lauriates..they groomed us for the onslaught that was about to burst forward.. the clash of the titans. It was like The Calling Of Jesus Christ to stand and be counted.. to serve The Kingdom of Light and Truth. Everyone that heard the Call came a runnin', from all walks of life from all over the world, spontaniety, wow.. it flooded the streets with the faithful.. let's face it, we were all looking for GOD the god of our creation some sort of supream knowledge/power.. we suddenly were open to a New Spirituality, a thurst for a connection to our origin.. not on a religious quest, but an inner need to fulfill us. To feed us on a different level.. a Spirit Food, Soul Food if you will. We needed something to help us see the path more clearly..enters Timothy Leary, Oz'ley and Sandos Labs..The Doorway to Inlightenment.. Inner Knowledge.. when we Peaked, we Peeked, we peeked into The Otherside.. we went beyond the brainwashing of The Beast/Machine. We floated on a Silver Thread and slipped into a wormhole, a glimps into other realities, other planes of exsistance. Being ALL, Seeing ALL, Knowing ALL.. that's when the word WOW became very popular bc there was no other way to discribe it. It was a Transendental, a Mind Trip to The Otherside of Creation.. Once A Window is open it stays open.. we keep it. We know it, it was imprinted in our minds. We grew thirsty for more Knowledge. now that our minds were open we needed to fill the space or rediscover the truth. We reached a new consciousness. We realized we were all connected and from the same Source.. all things created was made up of the same Energy, the same lifeforce. We were all Bothers and Sisters in the infinity of creation. We saw the injustic of Man, the harsh reality of suffering under the domancy of the machine. The demand of production and the slavery of mankind. We faught.. ohh, how we faught, we did it with just a few, but the few were enough to make some changes for the ALL. We empowered the ppl with at least independent thought, it was kinda like a mass contact high, most everyone 'got it' after it was brought into the light, ppls higher selves nudged them a little, as we brought Higher Consciousness into the mainstream. We did change some of the things we faught the hardest for, Equaility, Equail Pay for Equail Work, Desegragation, Women Rights, Eco-Consciousness, not to forget the forementioned Techno Consciousness, just to name a few heavy hitters. We acomplished something, we, what was left of us,took to the country as consciousness dictate and rasied our families..life got easier for a while. It wasn't such a battle anymore.. a barrier had been crossed. It lasted for 30 yrs or so.. not bad for a handfull of ppl. But as they do, things change and often history repetes itself.. and here it is again, rearing it's ugly head. were is our army..we look to the youngers as they are our future as we grow old and grow even fewer as time takes it's toll. What they learn today will be what either saves them or what conqures them from the lack of knowledge. With the truths we have brought into the light and the path a little wider they go with a better understanding of what we are about and the conection/energy we share with ALL things. With the teachings from the elders they learn the uses of Energy and make needed changes in their time.. If we all work together we can make it happen just by putting the Energy there. We all learn as we go, each step bringing us closer to what we seek. Bright Blessings sh
Damn! Why does that make so much sense? SH, you were right on with that! We can still see our own enlightenment and universal oneness reflected in the eyes of those who've also shared this experience (the 60s, the spiritual search, LSD, etc.) I'm really glad many of us have had a connection with the younger generations who have been led astray by maya and those seeking to control them. I watched the "E" crowd discover magic mushrooms and LSD and open their minds as we did. However they did not have the same external circumstances as we did back in the sixties (social unrest, the draft, massive protests). So we must continue to inspire them to action if things are going to change in the "left" direction. Hopefully we are now seeing the rise of the younger generations in the political process. They've all come on line now, many if not most of them have visited hippy.com and the hipforums (probably 20 million already). So they have the information and history from OUR perspective in addition to the brainwashing our culture has provided. Getting back to the Age Limit topic of this thread, that's why I've never put an age limit higher than 13 here (anyone can visit hippy.com). These kids need to know at that age that they are being brainwashed and programmed to be good consumers, and that there is an ALTERNATIVE view of reality that is healthier and holistic. But as I said before, we old hippies also need our own space on the net, and this is it!
*chuckles* I'm sure that the generation before yours said the same thing of your music. :tongue: However I agree with you about today's music - though I'm only 27. Does this make me an old hippie living in a young hippie's body? No really! One of the sure signs that you're old is when you start complaining about how bad the younger generation's music is, and then follow it up by reminiscing how the music was much better in the "good old days" when Kurt Cobain was still alive. That and all your favorite music videos are on Classic MTV. *sigh* (Okay I'm done. Sorry, couldn't help myself.:&)
Actually, a good gauge of how bad today's music comes from the younger generation themselves. Many of today's younger people still listen to classic rock and they themselves don't like many of what is pimped on nowadays as "musiK" aka "cRAP".
That's because classic rock had Jimmy Page, Hendrix, and Lennon! But where are the Pages, Hendrix's, Lennons, of today? Where are the new Santanas?
I should go with 48 (1960 ->), and as I've just passed that mark seems apt! but reckon if you are going to go with an 'Old Hippie' forum, 40(+) is the right number for this particular section. Sure the hippie lifestyle is about attitude and spirit, but I don’t think there's anything wrong with the 'open' forum to discuss subjects across the age barrier (and isn't that what the 'ask the old Hippies' section is about-to ask?). For Hippies of a certain age, who grew up at/with 'the initial time of change' the significance of the period was a lot more socially different to that which the 'teen hippies' face today and to 'advise accordingly, seems somewhat condescending(?) < Peace + Love ~ Save the Planet >
I asked to join old hippies after I was greeted with "wow, your old!" by a YH on the introduce yourself forum. It was after that I happily found all of you. We share experiences in common as a group, defined to some degree by our ages. Its not discrimination to divide ourselves into groups according to age. In the Marijuana forum a 16 yo said it would never be legalized because we "old fuckers" would vote against it while he was at school or at work. If there is age discrimination thats where its coming from.
I agree with those who say older hippies need a place to go where they can just sit and talk. It’s a public forum so younger ones can read it. They just can’t post to it. Kind of like when tribal elders counsel, the children can listen but not speak. The big problem is that there is no easy way to decide who an older hippy is. The easiest is age but that is not a good determiner, as someone could be 60, like me, yet have no clue what a hippy is. Do we take a test? What are the questions that should be asked, something like did you sit on hippy hill in San Fran in ’67 (yes) or were you at the first Woodstock (no) or how many times have you heard the phrase; “What’s a matter, did your barber die?” (I lost count) or “can you tell me what a hippy is?” (Well I knew but I could not say). So I guess we’re stuck with age. That means we need to ask ourselves who we want to talk to, people who had the same experiences (50 or older) or those who have a similar mind set (40 or younger) or both (40 or older). I voted 50, mainly I guess secretly hoping that would weed out some of the younger ones so I might find some of those that I knew back in the 60’s and 70’s. Also I spend a lot of time in the other forums, so already talk to a lot of younger ones and it would be nice to have a place where I could go to talk with those near my own age.
The thread seems still active, so I'm posting here. Voted for 50 being the lowest age. I'm 42 and when I was a hippie 25 years ago, well, I felt the thing was largely over. I mean, the great activities of hippies had been over in the early 80-s. Of course, for those YH who are now 25-30 I am kinda "old hippie". But the way you put it here and why the Old Hippies group was created, I don't feel I could rightfully belong to it. I should have been some 8-10 years older. And a few words about the necessary restrictions. I think they should NOT be considered anti-hippy, it is just about what Internet is. From the very early times of the existence of Internet it had been clear that every host needed security measures. Ever since people started writing viruses and other interfering nasty kind of junk. Accordingly here, with this Old Hippie group on the web you created, you CAN'T go without some restrictions and such like stuff, I'm afraid. Well, even every living thing is created in a fashion, when it has its protecting mechanisms, filtering systems and the like. Why? Well, you take these away, and at some point in time there will be no difference between the organism and the environment. And a list of questions for the candidates is a good idea, I think. Maybe, ask them, how they understand the meaning of McLean's "American Pie" in order to see, if they belong to that time. Or something like that, which would show one's heart? Then again, after some time, if you see some person is below 50 but is showing all signs of an "old hippie" in her/his posts, you can invite :cheers2: such person into the group. I just mean, if these things don't sound like hippie kind of stuff, then we may not forget , this is INTERNET. Internet dictates its own rules, every sysadmin knows that full well. IMVHO So, dear Old Hippies, it will be very interesting to hear from you here. And the jerks need absolutely to be ruled out somehow, there's no alternative, I'm afraid. May peace and love and hope and joy be with you. Kostya
Well 40 was the most voted for age for the Old Hippies, and I decided to follow that. Anyone who is over 40 now has a lot more experience than the young hippies do, and although they were too young to be part of the "original" hippie scene, they have experienced a lot of what happened after the 60s, and are mature and probably not going to cause us older hippies any grief by posting in the forum. Plus they often have a lot to contribute and are usually pretty "enlightened" as well. I always prefer to be inclusive rather than exclusive, but as we've been discussing here we do need a place for us older hippies to congregate without the usual Q & A from the youngsters.
