After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Considering that Six-eyed's stock in trade has been "putting people into geenralized groups" --"the left' "far left", "liberals", "feminists", "socialists", etc., this objection seems a tad ironic.

 

He has indeed also been a textbook example of it himself, yes

 

Believing that people with conservative opinions cannot be "hip" is a blanket generalization. Just like saying that people with liberal opinions must hate guns is a black and white statement too.

Although generalizations exist for a reason, it always makes me laugh when people get baffled by the outliers and the nonconforming members of these generalized groups.

 

The one common trait among nearly all Trump supporters is/was their propensity for authoritarianism.

It's not "hip" to be an authoritarian. That's definitely not cool, dude!

 

As far as that survey

If you asked me if I wanted to ban guns I would honestly reply with fuck yeah

I cant stand them and it wouldnt hurt my feelings if we didn't have them

But that isnt the same as understanding what will work from a political point of view. I know Americans love their guns and I know a blanket gun ban just isnt a reasonable approach to gun control at all. People are entitled to feel a certain way but it doesnt mean they think that the way they feel is realistic and it doesnt mean they don't understand the only real approach to the subject is through compromise

So to reiterate, no one is really suggesting a blanket gun ban or forcefully confiscating anyone's guns .It wouldnt be a remotely realistic approach

 

From whence does this idea originate? "Nearly all" doesn't sound like much of an analysis, it reeks of personal frustration. This is what I've been talking about, where's the tolerance? Where's the quest for understanding? Why be so rigid in this position like so many establishment drones are proving to be?

Does this guy look like he supports "authoritarianism"?

 

At a bare minimum, there should be a national database of gun ownership so if someone is stockpiling weapons, the FBI could keep a close eye on him. Or if someone makes a threat or is involved in domestic violence, that person should immediately have his or her guns confiscated. Not like Trump's plan to just take their guns without any due process, though. There needs to be a court order, like a warrant.

 

This is a tactic on the part of Trump. He knows very well that anyone who supports bypassing due process exposes themselves politically. Especially if they happen to be a lawyer (like so many in Washington). Once again he's laying a trap so everyone can see who takes the bait.

THIS is why I actually listen to his words and those of his supporters. As opposed to making blanket assumptions that everything they say is bullshit and fit to be ignored. There are all kinds of embedded messages that can't be interpreted by people who didn't listen simply because they are anti-Trump.

 

If we really gonna expand on this I also would think its better discussed in the other thread that's focussing on it:

Are Hippie Republicans Oxymorons?

 

That looks like a guy who supports "all you can eat" buffets! Just kidding.

This article provides evidence that Trump supporters are authoritarian:
The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Trump Supporter

But this more recent article disputes that finding and finds that Trump supporters are populists -- not authoritarians:

Populism, on the other hand, is a type of political rhetoric that casts a virtuous “people” against nefarious elites and strident outsiders. Scholars measure populism in a variety of ways, but we focus on three central elements:

• Belief that a few elites have absconded with the rightful sovereignty of the people;
• Deep mistrust of any group that claims expertise;
• Strong nationalist identity

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ritarians-new-research-says-so-what-are-they/

 

The school psychologist suggests a loop of copper wire be laid in the ground all around the school
grounds . When a dangerous person with a weapon crosses this perimeter , a little silver bell will
ring in her office . She may then alert the office . If both the little brass bell and the silver bell ring
at the same time it is likely an earthquake .

 

But he seems to have taken the bait himself by endorsing the idea. Strange.

 

How could anyone tell from his looks what he supports? Is he supposed to be somebody we recognize?

 

Populism has never been incompatible with authoritarianism. It's an important component of Fascism.

 

I call it "Body Prepping" since I'll live several weeks longer than all my rail skinny neighbors if there's ever a problem with the food supply (or TSHTF). Really though, this image is almost a decade old. Well before Jane, my wife, and our daughter drove me into a daily gym routine. It's also a wide angle lens, so it makes me look like I had a goiter. I didn't, it was all blubber!

As for the rest, all I see is sanitized talk that essentially groups us in an effort to divide us. An oxymoron of life if there ever was one.

 

That was kind of my point. When I worked so much in the Caribbean I ditched the corporate dork look and went back to long hair, extremely casual dress and a perpetual state of the munchies (GOD do I love island weed). Clearly I was in no position to be oppressing or being an authoritarian toward anyone. I was too busy teaching people how to keep the water clean.

 

I'm here to keep out of an echo chamber.

 

And to prevent HF from turning into an echochamber

 

Can you imagine how boring it would be? Like a website where everybody goes to say "yes, I agree with you utterly and completely. So what do we talk about now?"