I'm in Enid OK where it's cheap and liberal, but there are tons of freeloaders and meth addicts here. You'd have to put up a security fence to keep them out. I'd love to live in a communal village rather than a facility. I have grandiose plans for self sufficiency. The initial costs would be pretty high, and maintenance would be a full time job. I've met and probed thousands of people. I haven't been shown that people are willing to work for their freedom and the future of the planet.
Big chore. I think that the best one can do is form small communities , use alternative methods of living on the land and show by example that it can be done correctly. The wars, the mistreatment of animals, the starving children here and around the world are beyond what most of us regular people can do to ameliorate. One can help those around oneself in ways that matter and given that there always seems to be a "burr" under the "saddle" of ANY given group, vote in, vote out after a given period of time would seem proper. Many, many communal attempts have failed over the years-----can a bunch of golden oldies pull it off?
I can understand and like everything that I read you folks are saying. Like Scratcho, I am a simple man. So, I would be happy in an earthship made from materials that other people threw away. In such a scenario, we would have to find a county where the building code would not prevent us from living that way. Regarding Enid, I know where Enid is located. I would not want to be around Meth Heads. They tend to be violent and even crazy.
Well Mister T, any way this commune idea turns out, I know you and me and Scratcho are going to need a few Hippy woodchopper women to help us and push us around in our wheel chairs when we are older.
Hey Mister T, don't say that. My idea about having Hippy Woodchopper women take care of us makes much more sense. I was just sitting here wondering what it would be like to live in an earthship with a bunch of my friends. Just think man, we should have bought that earthship in southern Colorado two years ago. That one was something like 68 acers for $128K. We'd be rich from the appriciation alone!
Wow, great subject. I've been looking at having a hostel or WOOFer type place out of the small farm I have. Near me, three elder ladies bought land and each one bought a small modular/prebuilt house and they butt them together in a 'L' shape. with wrap around shared porch and added a shared garage. Brilliant. Tax man cant charge them for 3 separate buildings. I envision similar using tiny houses. I too, am in IN and cant wait to get out of here.
The Great State of Indiana is a piece of dung, and should be renamed THE HATE STATE OF INDIANA. It is an extreme right wing haven of KKK members, and evangelicals. The average Indiana mind is stuck in the Leave It To Beaver days of pre-Civil Rights Act America. Indiana is run by an ass of a governor who excelles at hate. He has refused to allow Syrian Refugees to live in the state. He has passed laws that restrict the liiberties of women and gay folks. He has balanced the state budget on the backs of the poor. He actually has a law that gives him the right to confiscate the property of a person who receives help from the state for medical bills. That means if you get sick and end up in the hospital, Indiana's governor can take your money from your bank account, take your car, and even take your house if you happen to own one. Indiana's governor thinks if you are poor, it is your fault.
Hello again all you aging Hippies. I just have to share this gardening experience with you. I have been living in a cool house for a year now, and it has a cool garden. My friends from Colorado and Oregon have come a stayed and visited with me; but, the care for the garden has all been my work. I did get Roma tomatos, onions, shallots, and some corn. For some reason the squash did not produce, and neither did my peppers. The beans did better inside than outside, I think the rabbits must have eaten the buds early on the stalks. So, I guess that I am giving up on this garden. If anyone wamts to come and help, it would be a start of a new Hippy commune.
I got lots of pepper plants, just no peppers. I am no expert on peppers. It seems to me they grow slow and need sandy soil, with minimal water. I think that I killed some of the pepper plants by too much water. I tried habanero, california, and anaheim. I still got some going inside, along with beans and tomatos. All my corn died because of this dry spell. What I need Mister T is a good looking Redhead with a Tie-Dye dress, leather sandals, and a peace sign necklace to come over and help me with my gardening. I'm realy willing to lean from such a hippy woman.
I don't grow many vegetables, the peppers were on sale so I figured "what the hell, why not". The rabbit finally figured out it didn't like them so some of the plants are producing now. A veggy garden would have a huge Deer/Rabbit/Chipmunk problem here... Like I wouldn't get any... They would be well fed. I grow medicinal herbs (the legal kind) and wild flowers.... Problem is, the hippy woman that knows how to make things with them isn't here, so I collect seeds for next year and compost the rest.
I have no deer; but, I have lots of chipmonks. My outside garden is history now. I weed wacked it yesterday. The corn had ears showing but nothing to write home about. My squash showed nothing. My rutgers tomato nothing. My peppers nothing. I had some romas outside, and some beans. The rabbits ate all my peas. The inside plants are all I was left with. So, to make myself feel better, I got a dog from the animal shelter. I figure she'll show dem wabits who the boss is in this corner of the woods. As for medicinal plants, I get some from my Mother and my Sister. They know plants herbs and remedies that go back a few thousand years, kind of like Indians in Arizona and New Mexico. In the southwest they have Yerba Buena and Yerba Mosul. Both treat intenstinal problems. The Napolito treats high blood pressure. Rudolfo Anaya wrote about it in Bless Me Ultima.
I would like to find a powerful herb that would help me drop about 35 pounds. When my waist line is 36 again, maybe the Hippy women would take an interest in me again, maybe come over to chop firewood and work in the garden!
Mister T, I must be honest with you. I almost died last night because I had a dream about our 50 Plus Commune. I dreamed that NOX wanted to join!!!!! All the Red Headed Hippy Chicks ran away!!!
Mister T, I live in friggin Indiana! I say that everyday man. I hate this place and cannot wait until my daughter graduates from college in May, then I am gone! I have a friend in Eugene Oregon and she is hip to living in a communal setting, so might end up there. I love Arcata California...too many Horse addicts, but a cool town and the Pacific Ocean is right there man. I am even tempted to buy one of the former converted school buses and drive it to Alaska or Arizona, or Australia if the friggin thing would float. Indiana is so dull, the Pope would fall asleep.