acid vs. shrooms

I voted 'shrooms. I had a strange experience one day, sitting with a couple friends, both of whom have taken both, when they began, "I wonder which is better, shrooms or acid?" "I know who we can ask." They turn to me, it was strange because of the way they had brought it up, and then thought to ask me as if I wasn't there. I picked 'shrooms then and now because the two seem to be reversed for me compared to most of the other opinions here. I've never had a "bad trip" on shrooms (to the point its as if they act as an maoi or something, one of the first changes I feel is becoming very calm and especially happy). Also, I've never gotten sick from 'shrooms, whereas I have vomited from acid (though I then proceeded to have the best trip it ever gave me), and have had more than one "bad trip" on it. Another aspect of it is that when I did acid, I did a great deal in a short time (50+ hits in about 3 months), and now (about 2 years later) I ocassionally get a "flashback" sensation which is extremely unpleasant (random stimuli, sounds, odd flashing lights, make me feel as though I'm on the verge of a seizure). Also, I've had many more, and much more pleasant hallucinations on 'shrooms. Sorry to babble, just sharing my experiences.

 

I sure would like some shrooms now , but I have no idea where to get some... And acid is hard to get in Estonia too....

 

You heard wrong. LSD is less toxic, teratogenic, mutagenic, et cetera, than aspirin. My advice is not to pay too much attention to: A) Government propaganda, and B) your little idiot buddies who can't even spell "science" let alone have any familiarity with the scientific method. If that sounds harsh, it's meant to. All the information is out there, including long-term toxicology studies, for those who prefer knowledge over "I heard that...".

Nesta nailed it, IMO, in a previous post about any negative physiologic responses being due to "where one's head is at". LSD itself has only very mild stimulant effects; it does act as an "amplifier" of whatever emotions one is feeling, and the jitteriness and nervousness are merely the anxieties of the tripper, magnified. Deep breathing, meditation, or other "stilling" techniques normally make that anxiety go away. Yoga is particularly beneficial in achieving a relaxed, centered, and positive focus.

I've had so little experience with psilocybin that I cannot state a preference. I wish to change that state of affairs, and gain more experience with mushrooms. I'm not sure, though, that they will help me accomplish the growth-work I need to do.

 

I like to start off with 300 mics of lsd. An hour later I take about 2 - 3 grams of shrooms (depending on the type). Once all is kicked in I usually play around on the dual - peaks of the shroom/lsd trip. After about 2 hours of this I bump some K.. well, I K-hole a lot =P This brings back an intense LSD-ish body buzz but makes my stomach feel better from the shrooms. I may throw in a couple whippets.. or NOS.. or some Molly (pure mdma, orally only)... I don't know. If it gets way way too intense for me like this time I did 9 grams of azurescens? I just take 5 - 10mg of valium and everything anxiety/negative dissapears instantly. Seriously people, valium wont KILL your trip, but if you're having a difficult time and need to chill -- or chill someone else out... give them 5 - 10 of valium and watch =)

 

Well said

 

What about ever-trippers? People DO ever-trip from the shit!... Haven't tried either shrooms or acid... Shrooms temp me though.

 

That doesn't mean your brain is molten. Its called HPPD and basically means you disorganized your neutotransmitters so much that you have a longlasting visual change, its not 'ever tripping', its often just quite light.
And you can get hppd from mushrooms too. Acid is just more likely to cause it.
The fact acid is called acid doesn't mean its an acid taht melts stuff.

 

Or you may develop other psychotic illnesses that were probably already there just waiting for something else to bring them out.

 

are the chances of getting hppd high?

sorry its a little off topic ive never tried either

 

i tripped on shrooms several times before i hit acid.
naturally i love shrooms.

acid for me tend's to be far too sharp, its like the universe burning a hole in your head.... and the acid we get is too high in strycthine or whatever its called... that zang in your spine. the come-downs are bad.. i do feel exhausted for a week

altho sayin that i do love alice

 

Sorry this is off-topic as I have never tried acid...

But on the subject of LSD myths my friend and I (he has both mush and acid experience and for the record greatly prefers the acid experience) were talking to someone who told us that anyone who did acid more than 5 times would be paralyzed, and he "knows his shit". HAHA it's times like that we all know it's not even worth arguing with the person, just smile and nod and shoot your buddy a knowing glance.

 

Acid, baby. shrooms make me vomit 75% of the time. i still do eat them when camping(who cares if u puke in bush, right?) or festing. but acid is way more predictable for me.

i think after eating acid 7 times you're legally insane (mabey that's what your friend was talkin about)

 

Another myth, this is not true.

 

yet another myth, threshhold doses of strychnine(sp?) do not fit on blotter. Pure LSD has a stimulant effect on its own without adulterants.
If the come downs are bad then thats cos you are mentally exhausted which can last for days weeks even months depending on how the trip went.

When just me and 1 friend did 400ug each in the woods i felt fine the next day because the trip was just so damn good, an entire trip worth of feeling amazing. On the other hand after 300ug on another day at my friends house i felt a little annoyed for some reason during parts of the trip and felt something almost trying to come to the surface in the back of my mind. This trip was weaker yet afterwards i felt drained for about a week. And my first time on acid was 275ug (im guessing here cos i had one 200ug blotter and one unIDd liquid acid drop and standard liquid hits are 75ug i heard off of someone more experienced than me on average i think) as well as a pill and a joint and i did feel drained the next day but I recovered quickly.

 

I would say, being in nature (like camping) away from civilisation with mushrooms is the most profound experience one could have. I put mushrooms first because they are natural and dont have that heavy feeling acid does, but it only wins by a small margin. It's a really hard choice though because acid has also done many great things for me and i love them both. Jeez its like asking to choose between two children.
Ouch...

 

And just a wee bit of strychnine will give you a very horrible painful death

 

it's this idea who is insane... 7 is the best way to reach the 7th sky more than the dangerous heart of the furious volcano...
I just imagine i heard and read a lot about psychedelics but my experience are not heavy...

Somebody can became mad after just the first time...others never bacame mad after 500 dose ...so stop the logics and mathematics...
Acid is not the theritory of logic ,acid just let grow even deeper the seed of your soul...

 

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth5.shtml

The most important part of this article is that a standard 6mm blotter has a total mass of less than 3mg closer to 2mg and that even if the entire thing was made somehow of strychnine it would only be a threshold dose, nowhere near fatal.

 

Doesn't it make you want to just smack some of these little idiots upside the head for repeating such inane bullshit? Arrrghh.

Yeah, yeah, I'm non-violent...today.

 

Definitely, I had a girl telling me a few weeks ago that acid stays in your spine etc but she could not offer any sort of explanation as to how this mechanism functions lol, and so I laughed at her and she got all on the defense "i go to medical school blah blah" the world needs doctors like that eh?