A Taste In My Mouth

its one set of words that describes something beyond words.

i personally see it as a lesson in what you are; for "you" die, yet you are there to experience "you" dying, so what are you?

 

"You" is physical. Physicality becomes irrelevant, and all that remains is consciousness.

 

consciousness has an "I" to it as well. its beyond your body. Even when you are completely numbed out on ketamine and can't feel your heart beat or your breathing, there is still "I" floating amorphously, that is the K trip in essence, a disconnect of I from body. But with DPT even that I dissapears, and all that is left is pure awareness, awareness even before the "I AM" is made. I consider the comedown the point where I first feel "I AM" returning.

 

"I" is always there, imo, but "I" comes to have different meanings when one gets skull-fucked by a powerful psychedelic.

 

increase doseage. 2c-e doesn't count. i don't trust PEAs for ego death.

 

lol I'm guessing you'll change your mind when you try 60mg of 2ce

Maybe not though. Perhaps I'll change my mind when I try DPT:tongue:

 

yeah im thinking really hard whether or not there really still is some "i" and i am just deluding myself, but really there isnt, and this state is easily accessed on tryptamines and LSD. PEAs, I think can cause ego-softening, which i have experienced on high doses of MDMA, but its more of a "youre so fucking high you dont know what "I" is" but there is still an "I" to be so fucking high to not know what "I" is, you know? whereas like, breaking through with DMT, there is no differentiation between your jugular vein and your chair, in terms of their proximity to "i", which is a good indicator of what has happened to this "i" (either gone, or enveloping everything. and if everything is "I", then "I" has dissapeared because part of what "I" is, is having limits and being a distinct "thingness").

 

lol I love how you explain things. You have a wonderful way with words.

That being said, on 63mg of 2ce, I lost all touch with my surroundings and turned into pure electrical energy, and I don't remember ANYTHING for a couple of hours, aside from traveling through electrical currents of some sort.

 

i think it's safe to say from mr writer's description that i've only experienced "ego softening" on mushrooms, LSD, and 2ce.
i've felt a profound love for humankind, all fellow life, and even all fellow matter.
but i've never lost the sense of "I"
i might think that i'm never gonna be sober again
or i envision myself as experiencing other people's pain and misfortune, but i can (pretty much) differentiate my body from my non body

how many hits of L do you find will give you ego death?
i've had only up to 3 with a small bit of tolerance. probably 2 without. my last acid trip was with 1.5 and it was a decent but mellow trip. i'm thinking of 3.5 next time?
probably not engough to give me ego loss

 

I'm 420% certain that I have experienced full-blown ego-shredding on 2ce, personally.