A smart man once said

There were a couple smart guys "rambling" in this thread too, unfortunately we didn't think to say anything catchy and short.

 

This thread reminds me of my philsophy class

and much like it.....I'm leaving

 

if you stroke it he will come

 

who ya calling an idiot there?

 

I agree. What I would add, though, is that such information must be shared regardless of who is offering an idea. It should not be the duty of the responder, but the duty of all.

What I am saying is that when and if that exact principle applies to the originator of a thread, (the holder of the idea, whatever you want to call hir) every other person (those replying in the thread, the acceptor of the idea) benefits. Indeed, the conversation benefits.

When the communicator of the idea follows you words to the letter, there is no need for other people to ask questions.

If the communicator does not follow that principle, he should be accepting of the idea that other people are going to tend to respond ignorantly. It should be of no surprise and can not legitimately be criticized.

If your post was nothing more than a random thought that doesn’t mean anything, why do you assume that other posts must necessarily be relevant? If the topic itself is random, should it not follow that a logical and following response should be of the same random nature? How, then, can a response be criticized for being off topic or of too much assumption when there is nothing more to assume?

This is not exclusive. Anytime you speak, it is from experience, regardless of whether or not you are on topic.

It was the right assumption that you wanted people to reply. As is evident here:

You wanted people to respond.

As to whether or not your post was meaning something. It must have. You would not have posted it otherwise. Doesn’t matter if it was posted as a random thought or a mashing of the keyboard or a well scripted play, it served a purpose and desired a response.

That is not what assumption is. Perhaps it is what a poor assumption is, but not the idea of assumption.

A reasonable person would not offer too vague a post to respond accurately to. I’ve never met any serious intellectual that would say something and not back it up with example after example after example.

Which is another reason I think, the duty lies on the originator to do whatever possible to avoid confusion, and it is unreasonable to criticize someone if you have not done everything in your power to ensure the path of least resistance. In fact, the two things are exactly the same when done by an originator and responder.

Assumption is a direct result of a lack of sufficient knowledge. A lack of sufficient knowledge is a direct result of the failure to recognize the principle you offered at the beginning of your post.

You are absolutely right that you can not be held responsible if someone takes what you said the wrong way. You can, on the other hand, be held responsible when you i) consciously deceive people into an irrational response and ii) do not do everything in your power to ensure people don’t take what you are saying the wrong way.

We are only forced to ask questions when we have not been provided a sufficient base. If we did not make an assumption than we would be, as Super_Grrl mentioned, be constantly inquiring into what could make our assumptions more accurate. So much so that we would have little time for everything else.

We are naturally provided with enough knowledge to make decent decisions 99% of the time. The other 1% is a direct result of coercion or unclear ideas from the originator.

 

Y'all sure are long winded.

 

How long did it take you to read the book in your sig. pic?

 

It should only take about five minutes to read through what has been written so far.

 

Alright, maybe 7.

 

But I certainly understand. Based solely on what I wrote, I wouldn't want to read it either. Too boring.

 

They are precious minutes that could be spent looking at the crystalstars nudies.

 

Those were meant in jest.





























I thought they were funny.

 

the posts, not the pictures.

 

I'm tired as fuck so I'll focus on this. I'm no serious intellectual, if you notice most of the things I try to bring about for debate cannot be proven.

 

me too. and me too.