A question for homosexuals

You mean like when the Catholic church ruled Europe?


AYO! *High five*


But seriously, I see what you're saying and I agree with most of it. Especially this part;

 

Haha! Nah, I was actually refferring to early man. But it could certainly also be applied to what you said as well. lol

Well, it is certainly a fact that even some people who are having kids, are having them for the wrong reasons. And not because they wholeheartedly want them. Adding this on to the other facts Ive stated, I think it's impossible to state with any real authority that wanting children/to procreate is an innate instinct.

 

I'm good with that

Agreed

 

You dismiss that. But to me I think thats what it is all about. And is the answer to your question

A hot 16 year old girl, who has every single guy either trying to hit on her or at least getting aroused around her, what are the advantages to her of knowing that 1 guy in 100 that doesnt?

And if she trusts that 1 in 100 over her own brothers, uncles or even father: you cant see the source of the anger from them?

Gay IS anti family: but not in the way you think everyone means


But to be fair, it is part of the secret girl code all along. Some things about girls only that 1 in 100 ever get to see.

Just as there were certain behaviours in high school from some of the other guys, that no girl or a lot of the other guys never gets to see.

Which is why the question will remain unanswered for many. You cant complete the puzzle if you dont have all the pieces

But to help you on you way, look at it from the other direction as well. That 1 in 100, may go through life never wanting to fuck a girl, looking at it from the other direction, that 1 in 100 may go through life with every girl he ever meets knowing not to even try - that doesnt make sense does it, how would they know? Well the trippy part is they dont really know how they know - which is why you never hear them explain it

 

Also Luna, I wouldnt worry about treading on eggshells, you are going to offend someone anway.

If I say to the other gay guys here, well how well your gaydar works is dependant on how hot you are, they are going to get shitty.

Or if I say that I think the only guys that are actually gay are the ones that knew that before puberty, then that will make some of them really shitty


You want some honesty, innate instinct to procreate, thats more a girl thing than a guy thing. Why does it seem ( to me anyway) that with the guys, half the female population will do, but with the girls they are more picky and competitive and it seems more like them fighting over that top 10% of guys

Maybe thats just the way it seems to me cos I'm also focused on that 10%, or maybe thats the way it is

Theres another thread going at the moment asking why guys fuck the hot girls but marry the ugly ones. How much does that have to do with more concern about the gender of the kid. Strong Mother, sons more likely to turn out alpha male, the daughters might be uglier, but who cares, could end up with a son that plays for the NFL

And despite all this talk about evolution and instinct, the opposite of that scenario above, is that if a little dude grows up the product of a teen mum, a yummy mummy, or a really girly mummy, he is going to grow up at least more sensitive than most, if not a raging homo

Then there are the siblings, guy grows up youngest of 6 with 5 older sisters, little dudes got no fucking chance

Depsite what every one says, thats the way they really think


Same with the Born Gay thing, none of us really believe that, we just go along with it so you lot dont try and reprogram it if you see it in a 6 yr old, cos if you try and reprogram it we know you lot are going to fuck it up, thats who our family is, even though we've never met him, still have to protect him - which is the real reason I'm never going to answer certain questions directly

 

@Vanilla: "none of us really believe the born gay thing". Absolute nonsense. Lots of gay people totally believe that, and Ive heard them stating so on many occasions. You can speak for all gay people now? Please. I love the way you bandy these wild theories about like they are some sort of concrete fact, when they are far from it. Like saying how you're brought up, and who you're brought up by will determine whether or not someone becomes gay, is ridiculous. There are too many scenarios that directly conflict with, and contradict your example, for it to be taken as a factual statement. It is far from being as simple as you paint it.

 

See, he's got you now, A guy like Lunaverse, well versed in the ladies crap, knows full well especially when it comes to sex, they'll say one thing, when they mean the complete opposite

Then you come along, say, Oh, I believe everything other gay guys say out loud, well cos they say it out loud, so it must be true

Thus Lunaverse is like "Hmmm, hang on a minute"


As for the crap I go on with, no not an exact science, but little dude with 5 older sisters, saturday afternoon after saturday afternoon over a decade having them dress him up, practice make up, paint his nails - aint going to help matters is it

 

Who's got me now?

Why are you putting words in my mouth? I never said I believe everything Ive heard gay guys saying out loud. What I did say, was that lots of gay people would argue that they were born gay. And I think you're deluded if you actually think that there aren't any gay people who honestly believe that to be the case. You cant proclaim to speak for all gay people, only yourself.

Again, Im sure there are many guys who grow up in situations like you've described, yet dont turn out to be effeminate, or gay. Ive heard of guys growing up in very macho households, with very strict fathers who have turned out gay. Also, a male friend of mine told me when he was growing up he spent much more time playing with girls than boys, and playing girls' games. Yet he is straight. It is far, far from being an exact science.

 

Let me guess, you know he's straight cos he told you

I mean if he was one for the odd fiddle with guys, he'd tell you right, I mean you'd understand. There couldnt be any reason he wouldnt want to tell you would there?

 

He definitely would tell me, yes. He knows Im not judgemental in any way, can keep secrets, and have no problem with gay people. He trusts me, and would tell me. There's no reason why he wouldn't tell me.

I still dont know what makes you think you're such a high authority on the matter. Plenty of people are brought up the same way, but turn out differently. There's no real concrete evidence to suggest that people become gay through upbringing, and envoironment. There's plenty of theories about that, yes. But no real evidence. You have every right to believe what you want, but stating your views as if they are actually somehow hard facts is another thing entirely.

 

i wanna know whats so good about being gay..

everyone stands up for it like its their last dying breathe.

but whats so good about it..

 

Eh? Gay people are gay because they are. Not because it's "good".

Of course people are going to stand up for themselves, why shouldn't they? If you mean why do people stand up for gay rights, its because there's nothing wrong with being gay. Not because it's "good". Im sure gays could also ask straight people what's so great about being straight.

 

yeah but theres no people standing up for straight rights. if theres nothing wrong, as they say, why stand up for it, if its right you shouldnt have to tell people its right. thats like police going out and having a festival to raise awareness that robbing banks is bad.

 

There's no need to stand up for straight rights, because straights arent being discriminated against. Or are being denied rights that are only exclusive to gay people. That's like saying back when black people were being persecuted, they shouldnt have stood up for their rights either. Just because people stood up for black people's rights, doesn't mean there's anything wrong with being black. There are people who think there's something wrong with being gay, but that doesn't mean that there is.

 

yeah exactly. so why fight. to be honest, i used to be rascist. i was raised that way and when i would see black people dressing all gangster and talking street talk, i took that as wow theyre fucking retarded. but then i started to realize that they didnt grow up with privelages i did. they were raised a different way. color doesnt mean jack. and etc. when i see a black man grocery shopping i realize hes same as me. when i see a black man going up to white people ridiculing them im like why even do that, thats why we have a problem with rascism today is because one thinks theyre better than the other. gay people should just let people say what they will say, and just live their lives. if i meet a cool guy and he becomes my friend, then tells me a year later hes gay, id still be his friend. but if a guy comes up to me with booty shorts on, talking like a sissy gay guy, asking me if he can smack my ass. im obviously gonna tell him to quit being a gay faggot.

 

nobody is fighting for straight rights because straights are the ones handing the rights out...

Are you referring to rallies and protests?
These are to do with public policy.

No-one ever suggests that being gay is 'good' or 'great'.
No-one here is saying that.

I have never seen being gay promoted as a lifestyle or ideology, ever.

 

homophobic people just dont have as much fun as homosexuals .. so they take it out on them in anger.. many of them have never experienced LOVE - religious hypocrites are the funniest of all living creatures.. Shunning things, I can understands to some extent ...... bashing them repeatedly just seems redundantly retarded, in all sense of the word: retarded...

 

And if he was worried that if he tells you, you might hit on him. or might start flirting with him which will make him uncomfortable, or doesnt want to get into a situation he might have to reject you,

Or he may indeed not trust you with that secret

These cant be reasons?

No one really knows anyone

 

Why on earth would he be worried about me hitting on him or flirting with him if he told me he was gay, when Im not a man? Geez... lol

He has trusted me with secrets before, secrets which have never gone any further. Ive also confided in him before. So no, neither of what you've said can be reasons why he wouldn't tell me, he definitely would.

 

1. Ellen Degeneres. She's striving to make the world a better place for all.

2. Walt Whitman. Great poet and humanitarian.

3. Michelangelo. The world would be a much darker place without his awesome paintings and sculpture.

4. Matthew Shepard. He wanted to make the world a better place, but was murdered at 21. Still, his brutal death helped to raise awareness about the importance of respect and tolerance for all.

5. Quentin Crisp. He gave the world wisdom and great wit.

6. Oscar Wilde. Same as above.

7. Harvey Milk. He proved one life can make lasting positive change a reality.

I'll stop at lucky seven. It's still early.

QP