A Peaceful non-violent society is inevitable

You called me a stupid liberal? I would try some L if I were you. You may find that you are truly in need of help. But what the hell--I'm only 75. I've seen government in action longer than your grand parents. What do I know compared with your vast knowledge. Damnit--don't know why I bother to answer anything you say.

 

at 25 years old StpLSD25 is at the prime age for the emergence of schizophrenia.....



just sayin'

 

actually, my grandma is a liberal too, and understand, I mean you no disrespect.

But, the way I see it, you're advocating for Democrats, and accusing Republicans of being the Evil Ones, and, you're not at all getting into Democrats, and the bad things they do. Mlk Jr. was all about a peaceful society he said, (peace) is not merely a distant goal we seek, but, also the means by which we arrive at that goal. We must pursue peaceful ends, through peaceful means." Government, on the other hand,is based on an illogical lie, that puts a small elite group of mortals, above everyone else.

Imo, there is no "lesser evil," they are equally as bad, when compared to freedom. I don't think I called you stupid, I believe I said ignorant, which originates from the word "ignore." You ignore the bad Government does, in the name of receiving the benefits. So, as long as the Government can point guns at people, perpetuate the debt and, force people to pay into the pot, people like you, will be happy.

But, you're doing long term damage to the future of this Country, and, Human Rights. That is why the system is as it is today. It is not ONLY the Republicans, but infact, the left and Right.

ps, if you really looked into the history of the US Government, I doubt you would still believe, that the US Government is out for the best interest of the people.

alot of what you saw, was lies, rhetoric and, hidden conspiracies and, both major political parties share fault in the blame.

IE, Yeah, George HW Bush was Most likely involved with Kennedy, but, LBJ (D) was definitely involved aswell. So again, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I think you should relearn what you believe you've learned.


Many declassified Documents show that Government has allowed attack to take place against us,(pearl harbor) and, have even planned attacks against US Citizens, as a pretext to war.

 

Ps Scratcho. My Screen name is stpLSD25 You think I've never dropped L?

 

Yup, how could you possibly know anything, you have only been on the planet three times longer than stp.
You actually lived through the Mccarthy bullshit, but what da fuck could you know about invasive and oppressive government in your own backyard.

I guess we should just both shut our lying, slanderous, Liberal mouths and let Stp tell us how it really is.

 

I would probably think its pretty fucked up if a cop busted in my home and raped my wife.

My question also wasn't pertaining to self defense. If you

Anyways, asmo was right about the point I was trying to prove. There will always be bad people with or without government.

And I had another point - I wasn't referring to self defense. If you weren't present when someone close to you was murdered, how would you like to see justice administered? Or a lesser crime, if someone breaks into your house and steals your tv..or steals your guns..but you aren't home to defend your home. How could anyone ever be punished for their misdeeds?

 

Many fire deptartments are voluntary. That is one option, or, you can hire someone to stop the fire.

Yes, just beause we cant FORCE people to buy into these programs, they will no longer exist.

There are plenty of ways for Firemen, Police and even, inspectors to work without the use of force. Moreover, Government already doesn't keep your food safe, and it's ignorant to think otherwise. They inspect 1 of every 200 cows- that doesn't protect you from mad cow decease. The Government has even protected Monsanto from lawsuits.

Government is not protecting you...

 

If I was a violent criminal I would love to see an America without government.

There is room for improvement but 1 of 200 is better then no inspection at all.

 

Look--I don't even believe in capitalism. It needs to end and IT WILL END. My answers to the problems we have is in context of the current system. The capitalists cannot take resources on an unlimited basis forever, continue to depend on convincing people they NEED,NEED, NEED the crap that is of now seemingly most important. (obviously easy to do) Anyone that has--for example seen the photos of the earth from space SHOULD be able to see it. Not many seem to, but then it's so easy to be conservative and keep it rolling as it is. Yes it's all bullshit--the thing is rigged. Do we, the citizens give a shit? Evidently not. It goes on relentlessly. An ignorant populace is a compliant populace and that's the reason education is failing--on purpose.

 

If I was a poor or criminal Mexican I would love to see no government in America as well.

How do you think your fellow countrymen would handle 'illegal immigrants', STP? In a nonviolent and peaceful way?

 

These are the redundant Liberal arguments, that are groundless and overblown. You can't just kill anyone, they have to be a threat to you. Criminal Trials would still exist, but, they wouldn't be based around money like they are today/

This is the thing that makes me shake my head at you Liberals; you act like, without a forceful Criminal Racket, society would crumble.

and btw, yeah we do need more guns. The Last thing we need is Government taking away our Right to self defense, while they execute people with plastic flying death machines.


You must be an Obama supporter, huh?

He has killed innocent women, children and US Citizens, but, you think it's okay for even his lowest level agent to have a gun, but, not a citizen?


This is the Liberal hypocrisy. Government murder is immediately justified, but self defense, even when there's a legitimate threat, is used as a scare tactic by you Liberals, who stand on the Graves of dead children, to incite fear onto others, leading to a knee-jerk reaction, that causes more violence than it would EVER stop (disarmament)

 

actually, I am an Obama supporter, He was the lesser of 2 evils, in my humble not worth anything opinion......I would love to see Jessie Ventura as president. He does not want any gun control, btw...he is in favor of them.....
but we do need laws and rules.....regardless.....without them, we will all be potentially more victims than we are now......someone gets mad at someone and bang.....people, with more of a populace, are less Father Knows Bestest, btw....they are more angry, or haven't you noticed?
Asmo, good point.....you made there......If I was a criminal......less rules would be great.....

 

A burglar now often refrains from killing anyone because they don't wanna risk a life sentence in jail. Why would they care when there's no proper law system carried out? They just need to get away without being seen.

 

I really just get the feeling you're confusing tyranny with government, or American government with every form of government that ever has or will exist.

Who do you think will organize the criminal trials you mentioned will still be happening with no government? What will be considered a law? Who will make the arrest?

Any kind of organizing body which determines these things is by definition a form of government.

 

First off, I'm not advocating "no rules," I'm advocating a peaceful society built on mutual respect. When you commit a crime,you give up your Right to Live peacefully. I've said this many times, but, you Liberals ignore that.

 

And you are being redundant...

We could take any of your threads and any of your posts and you are constantly, and redundantly, saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and...

Should I continue?

 

I can self govern......no problem. no one ever had to tell me to do my homework, or when to do it....I know right from wrong......I can live peacefully......no problems with anyone in real life...."us liberals".....so you say one time the govt should not be involved with what anyone is doing to their own bodies....Conservatives want to overturn Roe vs Wade, too.....taking away one freedom that was fought so hard for.

 

No. I'm looking at the reality of all Government. Even in it's best form, even if it spent every dollar on Humanitarian Spending, it is still based on it's ability to point guns at people, and steal their money.

That means it is evil, at it's core. Government today, believes it's people to be subjects. we Kill, die and, rot in prisons, for the Governments Profit and gain. They are given a pass to break common Human Morality, because it is widely believed, any inhumanity is Justified in the name of the "Greater good"

Because Government is based on the idea, that they morally own every individual, it is evident that they leave no room for individuality or, freedom.

a Jury of that individuals peers. a crime is when you physically harm anyone else,damage their property or, infringe on their freedom. In many cases, I believe the individual should have the Right to protect themselves.

Yes, there are people who may lie, but, there are ways of getting to the bottom of it. The police don't come until after a crime has been commited anyway. Look at the Drug Laws; Laws do not deter crime. Guns are much more likely to deter crime, then the "threat" of possibly being jailed. Most Criminals don't think they're gonna get caught.

These shooters especially; how many laws did they break other than buying the guns? Hundreds of them. More laws do not deter crimes. and the confication of firearms by a vastly armed Government would not result in non violence, but rather, the contrary.

There is no Governing body, in my world. This is a false assumption balbus made up, when I said that private corporations could be hired in different areas, where the Government have provided legitimate services like water, roads and, "inspecting" beef. Private companies do a better job for consumers, and do not continously steal from people, to research Soap for 20 odd years (like Government Does)

The thing is, I believe we're being misled as to where our money is going, and, how we are being benefited by this extensive theft of our money, when we are building up a government system, which in turn, cannot even follow it's basic founding principles.

But, I don't believe in any kind of system, where ONE group, has moral authority over another. What I support, is every individual having the moral authority to protect themselves and their property, without any individuals controlling the majority, or, profitting from their abuse...

 

Private companies dont steal from people...hilarious.

I dont really know what to say to everything else you've said. I dont feel like arguing gun control and I think total anarchy is an unrealistic ideal. Similar to communism in that respect.

 

No point arguing gun control...It will never happen...and it just causes more bad feelings all over......I don't really argue it anymore, either......