A liberal world.

It is SO hard to know who to trust these days...

But I can't just call them all bad and give up. I know that no candidate will live up to everything I want but Obama comes the closest. He will re enter the Nuclear proliferation treaty and stop the Iraq war plus he will promote better environmental policies.

Whats the alternative? do nothing how will that help?

Besides that I put a lot in first impressions. I have met Obama and he impressed me.

 

somewhere near Houston and Ludlow, LES

we had just played at the Cake Shop, I left with 2 people and walked till we found a darkened block...somewhere around there. While I was in the cell a few more people were arrested for the same thing in the same area

The jail guards told us that they were doing major undercover sweeps all across manhattan that weekend, and that it was much more lax in the other burroughs

the highlight was when I looked down and a genital crab crawled across my hand...luckily I did not get crabs

 

You must understand, Brzezinski helped write the plans for the neocons. The man is as evil as they come. Now he acts like he is against the agenda he helped create.


Maybe its a case of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer...Obama spoke out against the war when NO OTHER senator would and it could have been the end of his political career but he spoke out anyway. I will give him the benefit of the doubt until he gives me reason not to.

 

It's not a matter of trusting anyone. Just read Brzezinski's own quotes from his own book.

You SERIOUSLY believe Obama will stop the Iraq war? I seriously doubt it.

Politicians are professional liars. You can't judge them based on their smile or their handshake or how evenly the part in their hair is. Obama is a member of the CFR and is being pushed heavily by the media, and that is enough to tell me he represents the establishment and not the people. I also recommend people look into Michelle Obama and some of her dirty deals.

People say "well, then you're saying we should do nothing?" No, I am not saying that, but I personally am not going to vote for someone that's been given to me by the establishment. I personally don't vote because I realize the whole thing is a sham. I am not encouraging others not to vote, I am just voicing my own personal opinion. I work to inform people, because if enough people start talking and they can wake enough people up to what's going on, then, and only then, can there be REAL change. The so-called "change" that comes from establishment candidates is the change that is coming from the top. Not the from the people.

 

Yes I believe he will stop the war and my child is in the middle of this war so I want it stopped. Obama spoke out against it before it was cool to do so. Thats the bottom line no one else can say that.

Not voting is doing nothing. You can't change anything by doing nothing.

You say check into Michelle Obama's dealings why don't you post these deals you are talking about. I am interested. The only shady deal I know about was when they bought the piece of land next door to their home belonging to Tony Rezco. When they found out they put the land up for sale and they gave back any money he donated. There is no way to know what every single contributor does with their life. We have all probably dealt with a shady person that we were oblivious too.

 

I'm sorry it happened and I don't want to depreciate what you've been through.

But I've seen much worse for the same offense.

 

can you give some examples?

They had told me I could be there up to 72 hours, so in a sense I was lucky

 

that's rough, you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I can only imagine the scene in the south-western corners of Washington Sq. Park and Tompkins, haha.

 

Ew what does a genital crab look like? Can you even see them that well?

 

Pressed Rat: that is some scary stuff. so essentially the US has grown to a height of power based on a democratic system, and these head honchos can't really utilize all of their power/toys and do all the conquering they want without the populace becoming disgruntled (duh. already happening.) so one of their goals would be to free themselves of the necessity to worry about the people, hence the current USA is essentially a police state, and becoming more like one with each law that is passed.

sound about right?

 

that's not necessarily true. the power of not voting is underestimated. if, say, 50% of the voting block refuse to vote for a candidate, what does that say about the political system? what sort of changes could such a loudly spoken message bring about?

 

I tend to favor armed insurrection. But that's just me...

 

Liberals take rights very seriously; they are the heavy artillery of the moral arsenal.

To phrase this in a way that will seem paradoxical to nonliberals, individuals have a robust right to do what is wrong.

As far as 'classical liberalism' will further any society, it has significantly taken the Western society and culture into a theory of minimal statehoods, the primary function of which is to vindicate individual rights by protecting against aggressors internal and external. It's a minimal philosophy, that has and still is a powerful influence on the views of ordinary people today.

Without classical liberalism in the forefront, there would be none of its cornerstone ideals such as: private property rights, free markets, the American dream, free enterprise capitalism, the division of labour, neoconservatism, an entitlement ideology based on merit, self-interest and the autonomy to become self-made, to pursue one's interests in the name and claim of the state of nature.

 

There is a BIG difference between classical liberalism -- which is really libertarianism -- and the socialism we have today. Classical liberalism and conservatism don't exist anymore.

 

Uhh... what?

You don't think there is a liberal economy?

Look, allow me to outline and identify a few brief notes of the ideals of liberalism along with the a brush stroke of history of its evolution?

* Equality. Liberalism is based on a notion of equality. That is why the political system was engaged to replace the feudal system. There is a belief that humans are rational and therefore individuals have the capacity to reason for themselves as equals.

* Individualism. Liberalists believe that they are entitled to a sense of autonomy. People wish to be self-naming, self-made, and permitted to enjoy and experience the privileges of what is considered to be desirable: freedom.

* Self-interest. It's a claim of nature, and a fundamental belief for most liberalists or liberal democracy persons that the best way to get someone motivated is to appeal to their self-interest.

*Merit. You merit your social standings. There is no birth-rights any longer. The amount of work dexterity that a person has, changes the value of work. It's the invisible hand working with the rags to riches mentality.

Those principles still exist in the Western world and culture today.

 

You have to look deeper than that. Once you peel away the face, you see it's moving in the direction of socialism. Socialism doesn't advocate individuality, it advocates collectivism. It doesn't advocate private property, it advocates state property. It doesn't advocate personal freedom, but more government control. It doesn't advocate a free-market, but a planned economy. It doesn't advocate free trade, rather managed trade.

 

I wish it were moving towards a more socialistic culture, but I see it going the other way.

People don't sell their beautiful home because they would LOVE LOVE LOVE to live in a commune or a dinky apartment. That's not a socialistic thought process and attitude that is happening in the minds of the people.

Instead, they are going to work each day supporting the division of labour, pursuing their own daily self-interests and buying into the freedom of the capitalist market.

People are buying bigger, more useless cars just so they can drive around at their leisure. The idea is that people are entitled to their own freedom and mobility.

But please, I would like to hear the sound and taste of the core behind the peel, in your opinion.

 

Oh,there are birth rights by dint of the size of your bank account and the name of your family.I think that capitalism and socialism can be combined to reach a good balance.Homes,jobs,transportation,toys(boats,various ways of obtaining pleasure )travel ,inventions=capitalism.Health care,the law,common defence,roads,bridges,infrastructure,PUBLIC FINANCING OF ELECTIONS=socialism.Taxes=Those who have the most should pay the most by calculating taxes on a straight % basis.------And re-insitute the tariff system to penalize those american companies that moved off-shore,to encourage them to bring their operations home.

 

Yes, most people don't want socialism. However, socialism is the direction in which things are moving at the government level and above the government level. The materialism that has been indoctrinated into people is there to keep people distracted as we move in the direction we're headed, which is a world socialist totalitarian government

Once you peel away the utopic facade that socialism presents, you see it is in fact a very inhumane system (as is capitalism, but socialism is even moreso). Both were creations of the central banks, and socialism is the easiet way for an elite few to consolidate wealth and power. This is why the Elite love socialism. The men at the top prefer socialism to anything else because it consolidates everything into their hands via centralized control of the government. The ones at the top HATE competition because they want it all for themselves.

 

government should be done away with altogether.