A definition of AS I got from someone with AS

Not at all.

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absolutely, it doesn't change my course of action, it's just irritating to have to change my parameters.

because what asperger's in the proper sense is (i.e. the disorder named for hans asperger) is different from the DSM IV criteria, which, is irritating

and the root cause of it being irritating is the WAY in which it is treated and a lot of the issues around it. this "you're not normal so you're wrong" thing is built into pretty much everyone (except those people who aren't normal) from a VERY early age, and the way the DSM IV is meted out is a function of that.

fuck.

irritating.

 

I don't mean to spout platitudes, but if you know who you are, and you're not seeking treatment, than it doesn't have to matter to you. Try not to feel sequestered based on a medical condition.

 

I don't feel sequestered. it has nothing to do with how I define myself.

if you learned that a tuna was actually a salmon, and a salmon was actually a tuna, would that irritate you?

I do not in fact know if it would, and am not assuming it would, but, I will tell you

it would irritate the fuck out of me

that is the same as this.

parameter changing is fucking irritating.

 

Isn't the first thing you posted a brief treatise on solitude from another person with AS? I sort of inferred you had similar feelings.

I can understand your frustration of course. Just try not to let it consume you much, you're obviously much more than a medical diagnosis, and I'm just trying to tell you that you shouldn't use this as a mechanism to separate yourself from others.

We may not see eye to eye on this Dave, and I fear I may start going in circles if I continue.

All the best.

 

I thought it was interesting, and kind of funny

it was an angry perspective. it's not my own. I do have misanthropy, but it's towards NT's and Aspies, I think that almost all manipulation is wrong.

 

What sort of manipulation?

 

the hacking of another persons mind for ones own ends through means other than honourable ones.

 

No, no medical treatment, although some take meds for anxiety or self-abusing behavior.

The diagnosis gets us help in the form of educational assistants, an IEP, OT, and strategies to teach with. When you know what you're dealing with, you can study up on it and learn how to help.

 

I understand, but are you saying that it happens more frequently to and by people with AS?

 

Yeah, I meant to ask that. Thanks.

I can certainly see the benefit of diagnosis. I was trying to persuade Dave against something he didn't think; the reason I phrased it like that.

Since his position wasn't that, I feel like I may have been wasting font.

 

no, I think it's noticed around the AS community more often because AS people don't expect it, and then when they learn how to do it, they do it in ways considered socially unacceptable.

 

I tend to get along with aspies pretty well. I'm inclusive to people who are different from me, as long as they are back. I've never had a close friend with aspeies, but have had dinners with a lot of aspie biographical authors or public speakers and I liked their bluntness.
As far as depression rates go, I believe it with this state's shit social servies.
They seem to lump every child with a disability together here and assume their future will be at sierra industiries.

 

my son has autism. it is not the whole of him...he is also a very feisty spirited little 8 year old (quite the handful!!) apparently hes not a typical autistic??! whats that?? all those with autism or AS have very distinct characters too which affects how they see the world around them & their interaction with it.

one of the main differences you see between those with autism & those ppl who have AS is that ppl with autism are off in their own world at times & expect the world around them to fit in with them (ie see to their EVERY need...& fast!! LOL) whilst ppl with AS are aware of their differences from those around them & try desperately to 'fit in'...they want to be friends & be apart of the world around them. to my son we are the ones with the problem!!

i can see how just this one difference alone could lead to mental health problems such as anxiety, depression for ppl with AS. for my son unawareness is bliss. embrace your difference. who's/what's normal anyway??

 

How can you embrace your differences when it's shunned and you get ridiculed for it?

 

You become a misanthropic hermit. iggy:

I'm not sure if I have Asperger's or not, but I very much agree with the "definition" in the OP... I don't "manipulate" people though. I'm not sure I'd know how, or have a reason to.

 

For my AS this is perfect to a tee almost as if I wrote it myself.
though I never let #3 go away at least internally, I just moved to #5 then bundled up #6 with #3 until I realized it wasn't emotionally possible.

Though I hit walls in manipulation. I remember I could never get her to love me, I could get her to stay over, to care, but never any of the real emotions. But luckily my AS must not be so bad, because I found love and I felt it, I didn't know it was possible. It flooded over all my old wiring.

I like the eccentric, aloof, confident, and passionate people. I find them the hardest to read, the most exciting.

 

So is this the case with all aspergers suffurers that they can't tell other peoples emotions ? is this the common trait they share ?

 

Wow. Description sounds exactly like me :/
I dont think i have aspergers though.. I'd say im more empathetic than a normal person..
This shits so confusing..

 

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