911 Mysteries DVD Pt. Demolitions

you know, after almost 6 years, and all of the irrefutable evidence and information that has come to the surface, I have very little respect for people that still take the government line as fact, to accept such bullshit you'd have to be either stupid, or a shill yourself.

 

That's why, when you go to a 911 conspiracy website, it is so overflowing with complete raving lunatics, crackpots, jew haters, masonic-chemtrails-in my-illuminati-fluoride-toothpaste madmen.

I think what's more interesting is why do you fanatically defend theories neither of you can back up? Where does this blind faith come from? Do you just enjoy being messenger boys for the people that make a living selling conspiracy theories to morons?

 

Kind of like you're a messenger boy for the Bush administration?

 

I'd like to cut-out stuff about Zionism, Illuminanti, Bilderbergers, Etc
and keep the questions to the basic mechanism of the physics of the
colapse of the Trade Center. This is a legitimate scientific inqury and
a fascinating subject.

Lets not cloud it with pheriphrials.

 

And what about you Pepik, you sad little pathetic monkey boy? You buy the OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY hook, line, and sinker without a shred of proof because you simply trust your benevolent overlords. My God people like you piss me off. Luckily, your numbers are dwindling by the hour, as even 9/11 VICTIMS' FAMILY MEMBERS smell a rat with the official conspiracy theory.

I dare you to watch this documentary:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q=911+press+for+truth&hl=en

 

Most? really? Did you take a census? You make yourself look stupider and stupider with each post you make. Most people in the 911 truth movement don't even believe Bush runs anything. Cheney obviously is the guy who runs things.

YOU...ARE...WORSE...THAN...PEPIK.

 

HEY NOW!!! THEIR IS NO REASON FOR SUCH HORRID, TERRIBLE SLANDER OF SOMEONE.......YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!!

 

I don't think anyone here is denying that. However, this is all speculation and hearsay. As far as I know there has been no evidence that has come forward to prove any of the allegations that these people have made. If there was, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

By the way Rat, do you think there is any connection with people who believe in 9/11 conspiracy and also believe in other conspiracy (Illuminati, NWO, etc..)? Why do you think that certain people are drawn to these types of beliefs?

 

Cheney is a puppet himself. He holds more power than Bush, but he's still a puppet for people much higher. 9/11 goes to the absolute top of our government and likely involved other governments as well. Even if you got rid of the entire Bush administration, you still wouldn't have caught the REAL perpetrators of this atrocity.

Worse than Pepik? Now that's a big stretch!

 

9/11 and the NWO are two of the same thing.

 

This is such a perfect image of the 911 truth movement, one side calling the other side shills and liars, dupes and fools. Its nuclear bombs and beam weapons! No, THEY want you to believe that, its actually super nano-thermate! No its not! Yes it is! I did way more research than you! No, no, I did the most research! Shut up you elitist shill! No you shut up you globalist tool!

Give me a break. None of you did any "research" beyond reading conspiracy websites and memorising what they said. All of this irrefutable evidence - or so the professors of the YouTube University of Structural Engineering tell us - yet year after year passes and they can't even agree what this "irrefutable evidence" proves and can't get any credible scientists to sign up to any of their theories.

And as for "Press for Truth", there's not much to debunk in there. Unlike other 911 videos, it doesn't spend a lot of time hypothesising about conspiracies. It tells the story of these women and their quest for answers. I think that's why it is now getting promoted more than Loose Change. Whereas Loose Change was so full of stupidity an bad research is became an embarassment, there's not much to object to in Press for Truth. On the other hand, P4T doesn't really make a case for anything either.

 

From what I've read, there weren't any problems with the steel that was used in the towers. Much of it was A36 or stronger and the metallography of the samples didn't show them to be inferior.

There were definately issues with the sprayed-on fireproofing used in the towers. There was a company that monitored the tower insulation during the 90s and found that wind storms in the spring months caused tower sway and flexing of the floor trusses. That flexing was apparently causing some of the insulation on the trusses to fall off. There are photos showing parts of the trusses with the metal exposed. That's not a good situation in terms of keeping the metal cool during a fire.

If the fireproofing could be dislodged by minor flexing of the trusses during wind loading, it probably didn't have a good chance of staying on during the jolting and flexing caused by the impact of a jumbo jet coming through the building. There is one photo of the north side of the north tower showing all of the insulation dislodged from the floor trusses on a section of hanging floor.

The south tower hadn't yet had its insulation upgraded on most of the floors damaged by the aircraft and fires. Some researchers have argued that this may be part of the reason why the south tower collapsed first. There was an inward bowing of the east wall of the south tower starting about 20 minutes after the aircraft impact that gradually worsened up to the collapse. It was probably caused by the long span floor trusses sagging and pulling in the wall after their temperature increased. Sagging occurs when the truss metal loses its strength at elevated temperature. The longest span floors are the most susceptible to sagging, and they were on the east side of the south tower, the same side that bowed inward and the same side that the tower tilted toward at the start of the collapse.

No documentation has ever been found as to how the Port Authority justified the original half-inch thickness of the insulation for the trusses. Sprayed-on fireproofing was new at that time and there doesn't appear to be any research tests that the Port Authority did to justify that thickness as being adequate.

One could argue that the Port Authority was negligent in not doing the tests or that it conspired to keep the insulation problem a secret or downplay the problem. It's a critical issue, because the towers may not have collapsed if the insulation had been of better quality, which could have prevented the trusses from sagging and the tower wall from caving in. One hour isn't enough time for everyone to exit the building. Some of the relatives of the victims have raised this issue but I don't know if it has ever been seriously pursued legally.

There are other material issues, such as the drywall panels being jolted loose, clogging the stairwells and blocking people's paths when trying to exit the towers, as reported by survivors such as Brian Clark. That same drywall was also used as fire insulation for the core columns. If it got jolted loose in stairwells, it probably got jolted loose from the core columns, leaving the columns vulnerable to fire. Frank DiMartini who was inside the north tower during the fires reported by radio that he saw steel in the core area failing.

Most buildings have concrete in the stairwells, but the towers were of a design where weight was minimized in part by using lightweight drywall in order to keep the width of the tower the same all the way to the very top. Those design decisions maximized rentable space and aesthetic appeal but made the towers vulnerable in terms of safety.

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I'm curious as to what evidence might be found by examining the debris?
what chemical or radioactive footprints might be left behind?
Has it been too long now ?

The remains were dumped at the Arthur Kills Landfill. Can anyone just sneak in and snatch a piece of debris for examination?

 

Science tells us that jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to turn steel into a liquid as found in the basements of all 3 WTC buildings. Building 7 was not hit by a jet, so there was no jet fuel there to burn and Larry Silverstein's TV interview plainly states that they decided to "pull the building" which requires a lot of time to plan and set the charges. It had to be prewired and ready to pull.

The official pentagon story is equally unbelievable. The massive Boeing would have never made it to the pentagon unless there was a stand down order and the raghead that they claim flew the plane couldn't pass a check out on a Cessna. I recommned the DVD Pandora's Black Box by pilotsfor911truth.com. They show that the altimeter reading was wrong and that whatever hit the pentagon took down 6 street light poles and only put a 14 foot diameter hole in the pentagon. There is no debri that would have sheered off, like the wings, tail, the huge engines that would not have fit through that small hole. There would have been a wreckage (also look at DVD 911 in plane site by Dave Von Kliest).

Do you people realize that the "Patriot Act" was written prior to 911 and was ready to be signed once this event was carried out to motivate congress to sign it. It was sold as a tool to fight terrorism but it puts us under marshall law. Habeas Corpus has been taken away from us. That is our constitutional right to due process, the right to call a lawyer and have a trial, to be able to go before a jury or see a judge, have all been taken away! This was followed by the "Military Commissions Act" (go to the government website and look them up) they can label any US citizen a military combatant ( for distributing DVDs?), come to your house take you away without having to say anything to anybody. You are gone, no evidence needed, vapoized like in George Orwell's book 1984. Be aware of what you say. Big brother is watching us!