$500,000 to kill a puppy?

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by JoneeEarthquake, Dec 18, 2005.

  1. white ginger

    white ginger Senior Member

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    Cool. I don't graduate; I design my own curriculum (i.e. I follow my curiousity, fascination and passion) It's part of a 'homeschooling' (actually we call it 'unschooling') program called SelfDesign which is a branch off Wondertree(.org). A book was just published on it: "SelfDesign" by Brent Cameron~ Brent, director, is a close friend of mine. I've read the book and it's wonderful and I recommend it, especially to those who are selfdesigning their own lives :)
     
  2. kiss_the_cook

    kiss_the_cook Member

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    sign me up i could use the money,shit theres not that much that i wouldnt do
     
  3. Veganarchy

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    Man, I can't believe so many people would commit such a sick fucking act for the love of money; so, I guess we've figured out just how much a life is worth.Animal abuse and any other is completely unacceptable, shallow monetary gain on the perpetrator's side and some kind of perverted sick kick on the instigator's. Fuck. How could anyone do that?? All life is precious (it's just how people choose to use it that can seem kind of unworthy/wasteful..) it's sick that people would contemplate taking it away from an innocent animal for a bribe. And so fucking hypocritical of those who say they'd do it so that they could then stop multitudes of animal abuse/animals being put down, I mean come on, how is any of that ever gonna change when even the very people who are trying to prevent it are open to back-handers to commit that very act??! Ugh.

    Also, what's with people saying they'd wouldn't kill a puppy but would kill another animal (or vice versa..) -does belonging to a certain species make a certain creature's life more valuable then that of another?? Pure speciesism, half of them probably eat meat too..
     
  4. white ginger

    white ginger Senior Member

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    I'm curious whether you think a mosquito is on-par with a puppy? (I ask this earnestly and not for cynical-effect.)
     
  5. GratefulFloyd

    GratefulFloyd Nowhere to fly to

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    Well the spiders in my house can bite me while I sleep, and they're huge and really creep me out, so I kill them when I see them.

    I've just got a fear of spiders.
     
  6. white ginger

    white ginger Senior Member

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    ..Yes it is so fascinating. My friend who is a Buddhist may not kill any sentient being (as long as she wants to remain a Buddhist, that is :) ), and was telling me about a retreat she went to where they meditated outside. This was a six-day retreat, and mosquitos came and bit them that entire time they were outside. They were instructed to be still, and, of course, not kill anything. So they felt the mosquitos buzzing around, and then choosing a nice, juicy place to land, and then the prick, etc.

    For me that isn't a very clarifying example (especially the way that I worded) to bring to the question you brought up, cooloner, but it is interesting that Buddhists consider mosquitos sentient beings. (Certainly I do).

    "Where does one draw the line?" They way I'm intending to go about my way of life in relevance to this question is first acknowledging that I have killed many things, by accidents and by concious and unconcious choices, and it's likely that that will continue, particularly in the way of accidents and unconcious choices. Next, I try to be present in every moment with my whole being. (This doesn't happen consistently, let me tell you, but, as one of my Dharma teachers likes to day, "When you've realized you've forgotten, it's time to remember!" ..lol.) The road of speculation on why being present would help is a long and exciting one. However, I don't think it's a good idea for me to make claims about it here. I am satisfied with my experience of how I change when I'm present. When I am, I have the full power to make choices that deeply feel good to me. An example of how being present might effect my decision: endorphins, as Henry talked about, do not feel good in a deep way.

    Oh, and floyd, I have a fear too!! If any big spiders surprise me, I start shaking :S I wish I wasn't scared of them. They are so amazing and beautiful, but I don't want to get near them.
     
  7. hokoncan

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    I'd like to think that I could provide for my future with one swing of a blade, but I'm the kind of guy who will put spiders and insects outside, rather than stomp on them.
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  8. hippypaul

    hippypaul Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Killing anything is not good
    One should have a very good reason to do a not good thing
    Money is not a good enough reason
     
  9. †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg

    †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg Eminent Herbalist

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    Hell, I'd kill 500,000 puppies for 500,000 dollars.
     
  10. goofydrummer

    goofydrummer Senior Member

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    probably not a puppy, id say i would but it would be impossible for me to do, but i could see my self performing a lizard genocide.
     
  11. makihiko

    makihiko Official hippie since 2005

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    nope...thats sick..i have had sick freaks kill my animals before..no amount of money is worth it...
     
  12. t4l50mgoc

    t4l50mgoc Member

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    I'll pay ur ass to kil my dad!lol
     
  13. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    wow, this thread has been going for so fucking long
     
  14. STON3R

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    i would pump lead into a puppy for 500 g's shiiiiiiit thats alot of money
     
  15. pat_mycat

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    no no no non non no!!!! money isnt everything and money cant always make you happy. a puppy, however, can give you sooo much happiness. i think whoever says yes to this is sicko
     
  16. masterofpuppest

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    i would like to say i would say no. so i will stop typing.
     
  17. BraveSirRubin

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    Would I get a bonus if I killed the puppy with my teeth and proceeded to eat it?
     
  18. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    Dont kill puppies!!!
     
  19. Jedite83

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    I could use the 500k but I couldn't hurt a puppy. I woud probly want to take the puppy home with me.
     
  20. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    on an ugly puppy
     

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