4-ho-mipt/dipt

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  1. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    Got mine, but they are lowest on my list. I've done nothing but tryptamines. They are so familiar to me that it is a bit like drinking my own bath water now. I need to take a break from them and explore some of the other arrangements along PEA instead, for I have a terrible sample rate of this one. 2c-e first, then 2c-t-7, then maybe 2c-p.
     
  2. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Here's what a friend of mine had to say about a 15mg dose of 4-ho-mipt he tried:

    This isn't me doing some "SWIM" type crap.. a friend actually did dose. :toetap05:
     
  3. shermin

    shermin Bazooka Tooth

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    I'm glad that these are more potent than 4-aco-dmt...that stuff seems to vanish too fast :(
     
  4. mdbnkc

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    im not too sure if the fumurate iprocin is more potent than the fumurate 4acodmt mg for mg. I dosed ~22 mg 4hodipt fumurate in a capsule (i assume from effects felt because the salt is not listed on web site) saturday night. The first effects were felt within 15 minutes, although not fully developed until 1 hour after ingestion. The standard tryptamine visuals were there, Such as wavy lines, changing colors, and objects appearing to sway. The only downside was some tremors in my legs. Although i was cold and i am sure that influenced it some but not completely. There was not much of a body load overall but some was felt on the come up. Once near the end of the peak we went outside and smoked a blunt while watching the snow. The snow glistened in the air while the street lights reflected off of it, for a very nice effect. It was cold outside so we didnt stick around after the blunt. We finished watching our 2nd movie at about 4 hours in. At that point me and my buddy decided we were basically baseline so went back to my house popped 1 mg xanax and was out easily. Overall an enjoyable experience but i will shoot for 30 mg next go. I had a problem with the correct dose and found a salt dose calculator over at bluelight i could post if anyone is interested
     
  5. PsychedelicLover

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    You are supposed to learn to enjoy psychedelic tremors... :D Or learn how to control them in a good way.
     
  6. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    they are erotica
     
  7. shermin

    shermin Bazooka Tooth

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    they are one of the best parts of dancing!
     
  8. CrypToka420

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    the only tremors i have learned to enjoy quite alot, are the 2c-e tremors i get. oooooooo maaaaaannnnn. those are goood. lol. other tremors ive gotten have not been as erotic those.
     
  9. hacxor

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    http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/dll/2CT7_ sched_intent.htm

    2-C-T-7: Intent to Schedule

    July 18, 2002

    For a CCLE alert about this, click here.

    Addendum Sept. 2002: 2C-T-7 Scheduled.



    2-C-T-7: Intent to Schedule

    [Federal Register: July 18, 2002 (Volume 67, Number 138)]
    [Proposed Rules]
    [Page 47343-47345]
    From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
    [DOCID:fr18jy02-24]

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    DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

    Drug Enforcement Administration

    21 CFR Part 1308

    [DEA-227N]


    Schedules of Controlled Substances: Temporary Placement of 2,5-
    Dimethoxy-4-(n)-propylthiophenethylamine Into Schedule I

    AGENCY: Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), Justice.

    ACTION: Notice of intent.

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    SUMMARY: The Deputy Administrator of the Drug Enforcement
    Administration (DEA) is issuing this notice of intent to temporarily
    place 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-(n)-propylthiophenethylamine (2C-T-7) into
    Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) pursuant to the
    temporary scheduling provisions of the CSA. This intended action is
    based on a finding by the DEA Deputy Administrator that the placement
    of 2C-T-7 into Schedule I of the CSA is necessary to avoid an imminent
    hazard to the public safety. Finalization of this action will impose
    the criminal sanctions and regulatory controls of a Schedule I
    substance on the manufacture, distribution, and possession of 2C-T-7.

    FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Frank Sapienza, Chief, Drug and
    Chemical Evaluation Section, Office of Diversion Control, Drug
    Enforcement Administration, Washington, DC 20537, Telephone (202) 307-
    7183.

    SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION:

    What Is Temporary Scheduling?

    The Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984 (Pub. L. 98-473), which
    was signed into law on October 12, 1984, amended section 201 of the
    Controlled Substances Act (CSA) (21 U.S.C. 811) to give the Attorney
    General the authority to temporarily place a substance into Schedule I
    of the CSA for one year without regard to the requirements of 21 U.S.C.
    811(b) if he finds that such action is necessary to avoid an imminent
    hazard to the public safety. The Attorney General may extend the
    temporary scheduling up to 6 months. A substance may be temporarily
    scheduled under the emergency provisions of the CSA if that substance
    is not listed in any other schedule under section 202 of the CSA (21
    U.S.C. 812) or if there is no exemption or approval in effect under 21
    U.S.C. 355 for the substance. The Attorney General has delegated his
    authority under 21 U.S.C. 811 to the Deputy Administrator of DEA (28
    CFR 0.100).

    What Criteria Must Be Considered in Determining Temporary Scheduling?

    In making a finding that placing a substance temporarily into
    Schedule I of the CSA is necessary to avoid an imminent hazard to the
    public safety, the Deputy Administrator is required to consider three
    of the eight factors set forth in section 201(c) of the CSA (21 U.S.C.
    811(c)). These factors are as follows: (4) History and current pattern
    of abuse; (5) The scope, duration and significance of abuse; and (6)
    What, if any, risk there is to the public health.

    What Is 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-(n)-propylthiophenethylamine?

    2,5-dimethoxy-4-(n)-propylthiophenethylamine (2C-T-7), a
    phenethylamine, is structurally related to the Schedule I
    phenethylamine 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine (2C-B), and other
    hallucinogens (e.g., 2,5-dimethoxy-4-methylamphetamine (DOM), and 1-(4-
    bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl-2-aminopropane (DOB)) in Schedule I of the
    CSA. 2C-T-7 has those structural features of phenethylamines which are
    necessary for stimulant and/or hallucinogenic activity; 2C-T-7 is a
    sulfur analogue of 2CB. Based on these structural features. 2C-T-7 is
    likely to have a pharmacological profile similar to 2CB and other
    Schedule I hallucinogens. The similarity in the effects of 2C-T-7 and
    2CB has been supported by Shulgin and Shulgin (Pikal: A Chemical Love
    Story; pp. 569-570, 1991) and by ``self-reports'' on the Internet.
    Shulgin and Shulgin (1991) reported that at an oral dose of 20 mg or 30
    mg, 2C-T-7 produced visual hallucinations. They concluded that in terms
    of being an acceptable hallucinogen, 2C-T-7 was comparable to 2CB and
    mescaline. Self-reports on the Internet have described the
    hallucinations resulting from the self-administration of 2C-T-7 as
    being very 2CB-like; consisting of persistent multiple images, overlaid
    patterns, and trails. The subjective effects of 2C-T-7 have also been
    described as being similar to those of 2CB; mood lifting, sense of well
    being, emotionally, volatility, increased appreciation of music, and
    psychedelic ideation.
    DEA is not aware of any approved therapeutic use of 2C-T-7 in the
    United States. The safety of this substance for use in humans has never
    been demonstrated.

    What Information Was Considered in Respect to Making the Finding of
    Imminent Hazard to the Public Health?

    DEA, as required by 21 U.S.C. 811(h)(3), considered the following
    three factors set forth in paragraphs (4), (5) and (6) of 21 U.S.C.
    811(c) in its decision to temporarily schedule 2C-T-7. The information
    relevant to the three factors is summarized below.

    21 U.S.C. 811(c)(4) Its History and Current Pattern of Abuse

    The abuse of stimulant/hallucinogenic substances in popular all
    night dance parties (raves) and in other venues has been a major
    problem in Europe since the 1990s. In the past several years, this
    activity has spread to the United States. The Schedule I controlled
    substance MDMA and its analogues, collectively known as Ecstasy, are
    the most popular drugs abused at these raves. Their abuse has been
    associated with both acute and long-term public health and safety
    problems. These raves have also become venues for the trafficking and
    abuse of ``new non-controlled'' substances in place of or in addition
    to ``Ecstasy.'' 2C-T-7 is one such substance.
    Illicit use of 2C-T-7 was first reported in Germany in 1997. 2C-T-7
    was placed under the control of German law on January 20, 1998. In
    October of 1999, 2C-T-7 tablets were being sold in the Netherlands
    under the trade name ``Blue Mystic''. Illicit use of 2C-T-7 was
    reported in Sweden in January of 2000. Currently 2C-T-7 is controlled
    under the Swedish law pertaining to goods which are dangerous to the
    public. French Customs authorities reported seizing tablets in 2001
    that contained 10 mg of 2C-T-7.
    Abuse of 2C-T-7 in the United States was first reported in 1997; an
    individual posted his experience associated with the oral ingestion of
    20 mg of 2C-T-7 on the Lycaeum website on the Internet. In the year
    2000, the abuse of 2C-T-7 by young adults began to spread in the United
    States as evidenced by widespread discussion on drug website forums and
    the sale of the substance from an Internet company. The information
    being discussed on these websites includes the route of administration,
    recommended doses, and narratives from individuals describing their
    experiences and effects after self-administering 2C-T-7.
    Self-reported experiences and other information posted on these
    websites indicate that 2C-T-7 is being abused orally (10-50 mg) or
    intranasally; the

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    oral route is the most common route of abuse. The powder is being mixed
    in liquids or placed in gelatin capsules. Information posted on these
    websites indicates that 2C-T-7 is being taken alone or with other
    drugs; such as MDMA, ketamine, cannabis, N,N-disopropyl-5-
    methoxytryptamine (``Foxy Methoxy'') and N,N-dipropyltryptamine (DPT).
    Information gathered by DEA indicates that 2C-T-7 has been
    purchased in powder form over the Internet and distributed as such. In
    the United States, capsules containing 2C-T-7 powder also have been
    encountered; whereas in the Netherlands (``Blue Mystics''), and in
    Canada (``Red Raspberry'') the bulk powder is being processed into
    tablets.

    21 U.S.C. 811(c)(5) the Scope, Duration and Significance of Abuse

    State and local law enforcement agencies reported 2C-T-7 exhibits
    seized in the states of Texas and Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, two
    unrelated exhibits were submitted to the Wisconsin State Crime
    Laboratory for analysis; the first exhibit consisted of two clear
    capsules containing 16 to 18 milligrams of white powder and two paper
    packets. One packet contained 450 milligrams of tan powder and the
    other paper packet contained 869 milligrams. The powder in these
    exhibits was identified as 2C-T-7. These two capsules were sold to an
    informant as ``Tweety-Bird Mescaline.'' The second exhibit analyzed by
    the Wisconsin State Crime Laboratory was shown to be a mixture of 2C-T-
    7 and N,N-dipropyltryptamine (DPT). 2C-T-7 has also appeared in illicit
    traffic in Tennessee, Washington, and Oklahoma, as evidenced by the 2C-
    T-7 related deaths in these states. It is being sold under the ``street
    names'' Blue Mystic, T7, Beautiful, Tweety-Bird Mescaline or Tripstay.
    To date, DEA has not identified a clandestine laboratory synthesizing
    2C-T-7.

    21 U.S.C. 811(c)(6) What, If Any, Risk There Is to Public Health

    2C-T-7 shares those structural similarities with 2CB and other
    phenethylamines (i.e., DOB, and DOM), which makes it likely to produce
    similar public health risks. Sensory distortion and impaired judgment
    can lead to serious consequences for both the user and the general
    public. 2C-T-7 can have lethal effects when abused alone or in
    combination with other illicit drugs. To date, three deaths have been
    associated with the abuse of 2C-T-7. The first death occurred in
    Oklahoma during April of 2000; a young healthy male overdosed on 2C-T-7
    following intranasal administration. The co-abuse of 2C-T-7 with MDMA
    will pose a significant health risk if 2C-T-7 popularity increases in
    the same venues as with MDMA. The co-abuse of 2C-T-7 with MDMA has
    resulted in lethal effects. The other two 2C-T-7 related deaths
    resulted from the co-abuse of 2C-T-7 with MDMA. They both occurred in
    April of 2001. One young man died in Tennessee while another man died
    in the state of Washington.

    What Other Factors Were Taken Into Consideration?

    Additionally, DEA has considered the three criteria for placing a
    substance into Schedule I of the CSA (21 U.S.C. 812). The data
    available and reviewed for 2C-T-7 indicate that it has a high potential
    for abuse, no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United
    States and is not safe for use under medical supervision.

    What Is The Role of the Assistant Secretary for Health in Temporary
    Scheduling?

    As required by section 201(h)(4) of the CSA (21 U.S.C. 811(h)(4)),
    the Deputy Administrator has notified the Assistant Secretary for
    Health, delegate of the Secretary of Health and Human Services, of his
    intention to temporarily place 2C-T-7 into Schedule I of the CSA.
    Comments submitted by the Assistant Secretary for Health in response to
    this notification, including whether there is an exemption or approval
    in effect for 2C-T-7 under the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act,
    shall be taken into consideration before a final order is published.
    Based on the above data, the continued distribution and abuse of
    2C-T-7 poses an imminent risk to the public safety. There are no
    recognized therapeutic uses of this substance in the United States.
    In accordance with the provisions of section 201(h) of the CSA (21
    U.S.C. 811(h)) and 28 CFR 0.100, the Deputy Administrator has
    considered the available data and the three factors required for a
    determination to temporarily schedule 2C-T-7 under the CSA and finds
    that placement of 2C-T-7 into Schedule I of the CSA is necessary to
    avoid an imminent hazard to the public safety.
    Because the Deputy Administrator finds that it is necessary to
    temporarily place 2C-T-7 into Schedule I to avoid an imminent hazard to
    the public safety, the final order, if issued, will be effective on the
    date of publication in the Federal Register. 2C-T-7 will be subject to
    the regulatory controls and administrative, civil and criminal
    sanctions applicable to the manufacture, distribution, possession,
    importing and exporting of a Schedule I controlled substance under the
    CSA. Further, it is the intention of the Deputy Administrator to issue
    such a final order as soon as possible after the expiration of thirty
    days from the date of publication of this notice and the date that
    notification was transmitted to the Assistant Secretary for Health.

    Regulatory Certifications

    Regulatory Flexibility Act

    The Deputy Administrator hereby certifies that this rulemaking has
    been drafted in accordance with the Regulatory Flexibility Act (5
    U.S.C. 605(b)), has reviewed this regulation, and by approving it
    certifies that this regulation will not have a significant economic
    impact on a substantial number of small entities. This action provides
    a notice of intent to temporarily place 2C-T-7 into Schedule I of the
    Controlled Substances Act.

    Executive Order 12988

    This regulation meets the applicable standards set forth in
    Sections 3(a) and 3(b)(2) of Executive Order 12988 Civil Justice
    Reform.

    Executive Order 13132 Federalism

    This rule will not have substantial direct effects on the States,
    on the relationship between the national government and the States, or
    on the distribution of power and responsibilities among the various
    levels of government. Therefore, in accordance with Executive Order
    13132, it is determined that this rule will not have sufficient
    federalism implications to warrant the preparation of a Federalism
    Assessment.

    Unfunded Mandates Reform Act

    This rule will not result in the expenditure by State, local and
    tribal governments, in the aggregate, or by the private sector, of
    $100,000,000 or more in any one year, and it will not significantly or
    uniquely affect small governments. Therefore, no actions were deemed
    necessary under provisions of the Unfunded Mandates Reform Act of 1995.

    Small Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act of 1996

    This rule is not a major rule as defined by Sec. 804 of the Small
    Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act of 1996. This rule will
    not result in an annual effect on the economy of $100,000,000 or more;
    a major increase in costs or prices; or significant adverse

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    effects on competition, employment, investment, productivity,
    innovation, or on the ability of United States-based companies to
    compete with foreign-based companies in domestic and export markets.

    List of Subjects in 21 CFR part 1308

    Administrative practice and procedure, Drug traffic control,
    Narcotics, Prescription drugs, Reporting and Recordkeeping
    requirements.
    Under the authority vested in the Attorney General by Section
    201(h) of the CSA (21 U.S.C. 811(h)), and delegated to the Deputy
    Administrator of the DEA by Department of Justice regulations (28 CFR
    0.100), the Department Administrator hereby intends to order that 21
    CFR Part 1308 be amended as follows:

    PART 1308--SCHEDULES OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES

    1. The authority citation for 21 CFR Part 1308 continues to read as
    follows:

    Authority: 21 U.S.C. 811, 812, 871b, unless otherwise noted.

    2. Section 1308.11 is to be amended by adding paragraph (g)(5) to
    read as follows:


    Sec. 1308.11 Schedule I.

    * * * * *
    (g) * * *
    (5) 2,5-dimethoxy-4-(n)-propylthiophenethylamine (2C-T-7), its
    optical isomers, salts and salts of isomers--7348.
    * * * * *

    Dated: July 9, 2002.
    John B. Brown, III,
    Deputy Administrator.
    [FR Doc. 02-17902 Filed 7-17-02; 8:45 am]
    BILLING CODE 4410-09-M
     

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