4-AcO-DMT 50mg oral

The problem was not that I had a negative reaction to a substance I should have acclimated myself to beforehand, the problem was that I had been tripping every week for like 4 months, for the first time in my life, on strong and regular doses of all kinds of things, mostly tryptamines. I was already feeling some mental strain at that point but nothing tangible yet, well I guess I got what I asked for, something tangible to tell me "stop tripping for a while".

I've enjoyed every experience as well. It's a very euphoric one.

different, fried out is more like your brain is just tired. i feel like my brain was tired 2 months ago and i kept going, im heavily fried.

 

i have a friend who did acid 3 times a week for like 3 months [as well as mushrooms but less often...he was selling them both, and he got drug tested so couldn't smoke weed, so he just did hella acid] and he had to make the conscious decision to not trip for all of 2008.

his hppd's died down completely, and he trips extremely rarely now adays...

you may have to take a break for at least a few months.

 

I've still got slight HPPD from my initial introduction to psychedelics.... lsd 8 in months with 5 shroom trips in between. I have tripped 3 times since then on shrooms spaced out atleast 2 months between and two non visual doses of 4-aco-dmt (i've literally not had a good day to TRIP in months...) with no changes in the hppd other than the initial day or two after.

Sounds like a hell of a trip, sounds sorta similar to my dmt experience. glad you are taking some time off, psych binges are fun and all but I find tripping in moderation is much more rewarding.

 

How strange would it be if all these drugs are just making you think that they are helping you improve yourself, when in reality you are just growing? What if the drugs make us think change and self improvement is a consciouss effort, but without drugs our subconsciouss would take care of that for us?




Haha sorry Im so high right now :sifone:

 

Every summer I committ to going camping every weekend so I can be outside and enjoy nature. The winters are hard, but just as enjoyable if you snowboard/snowmachine/hike/ice fish. But if you don't like the cold it's rough.

There is nothing like going on a hunting trip with an ounce of mushrooms, a 300WM, a fishing pole and a tent. Fish for the trip and hunt food for the year.

As for Mr. Writer, I'm sure that the negative affects will pass. You have a strong mind and soul, you can overcome anything.

 

Have considered this, but all you need to do to be convinced otherwise is look at people that won't touch drugs.
For the most part they tend to be close minded, and hold firm to foolish ideals governing the way other people choose to live.
A conscious effort is most definitely needed.
The subconscious tends to form habits.

 

i was gonna say something like this..

what if, mr. writer, these drugs didn't have the characteristics that you say they do. for example, maybe 4acodmt doesn't do to everyone what it does to you. maybe it's effects on you have a lot to do with you as an individual?
if that makes any sense

 

You mean like every other psychedelic? lol
Of course its affects have to do with the individual.

 

it just seemed like mr writer was saying 4acodmt will do this. i didn't find a quote though, so maybe i'm wrong.

i was just trying to agree with prone. maybe that's what the chem did to writer, but it wouldn't necessarily to that to someone else, or even to mr writer again at a different time.

i guess my main point is that when we talk about the trips we have, we should describe what happened to us. not implying that the same would be true for someone else.

i'm just talking too much:sifone:

 

all your points are intelligent and correct. trips are completely personal, and psychological growth does happen outside of drug use.

However, psychedelics are known to increase psychological change, sometimes in the form of dysfunction, sometimes in the form of function (growth). This is known. Drugs also have effects which are common to most people taking them; it is not fallacious to say that someone taking MDMA will probably experience euphoria and emotional opening. It is not stepping too far to say that someone shooting heroin will experience physical depression, or that someone snorting ketamine will experience dissociation.

Beyond that, it's all personal. But my point with 4aco is that I really do think that, like MDMA, it has a consistent effect across uses and users, to bring to light personal issues and confront the tripper with real-world conditions that they are immersed in, as opposed to being very abstractly or cosmically oriented.

For example, I never really "learned" anything from DPT, except things that are better expressed through the banging of a gong or a wry smile, rather than my words in this forum. 4-aco-dmt strikes me as a more realistically useful tool for personal growth than other options, and if everything was legal and I was a psychiatrist tomorrow, the first chemicals I would offer to appropriate patients would be MDMA, aMT, and 4-aco-dmt.

 

I would def. come to you first

 

man, these last few pages have turned into similar conversations i have with people while im trippin, but not as in depth. how interesting.

that idea mentioned before, about us "thinking" these drugs are helping but we dont need them. that idea, i always think that when im on 2ci, the 2ci headtrip maked me think negatively for some reason. 2ce on the other hand is complete meditation-state when im peaking. 4aco brough out alot of personal issues that i wasnt ready to deal with at that moment, but had to i guess.

i owuld also go to the psychiatrist that owuld give me those substances.

 

Remarkable effect this tryptamine has . . .

 

If Mr. Writer was a psychiatrist, I would go to see him also

 

man i just saw this, but i have to say it even though its been said and is known, this was a great trip report man

i can't wait to get my hands on this, and perhaps get to that dosage

and about the schooling and having to slow down i know that feeling all too well...i have a few NEW substances i have been holding out on till i graduate in december.

 

Just wanted to update this and say that the bad mental effects faded a while ago. I don't even know when, but I was just rereading this thread and forgot they even happened. Positive life changes still on track, and have actually gotten better since this writing.

yeah GV I currently have the following to try: 2c-t-7, 2c-p, 4-ho-dipt, 4-ho-mipt, 5-meo-mipt, DOI. yikes

i even tripped on new years eve (amt 35mg) and then again last night on some low dose cid. I feel great

 

Glad you're back on track my man! We all need our breaks, it's only when you can see that it's needed that you are a true psychonaut.

 

had it been a long time since your last acid trip?

 

Mr.Writer, have you watched south park on DVD or VHS when you get to see the makers do thier skits in between episodes? If not, you have to go rent them or buy them and check it out. I used to have seasons 1-7 till someone stole them all. I watched them all the time.

 

November 2008 :\

PL that must be a riot