2nd Amendment Protest

Privatization is another word for profiteering and the US has bought into it.

 

right well we now use mercinaries to fight our wars, give out no bid contracts, etc...why not make some money off of education and make it look like you're offering a superior alternative. Its a joke.

 

Definately. He says if those in the Revolutionary and Civil war could defeat the tyrant government so can we. Well back weapons where not as powerful as they are now. The government has access to weapons that could wipe out a town's people. The rebels back in the 60's had strong messages and sparked an amazing revolution, but when the National Guard and the Army arrived they fought as hard as they could and did they overthrow them? God no! The lives of innocent people who only wanted peace where taken by the dozens.

 

Our biggest problem world wise is sepiration from other human societies.Why would we base our education on that..
Children need to learn to understand and except everything thats around them..By confiding them we will only create more problems..An alienation of people to one another is already a seriuos issue in our society..Understanding things we dont know,and excepting the things we cant change.The fact that people are different is not ever going to change...Individuality is what makes us human..That is truely the only thing that separates us from all other mamals..The ability to see beyond the jungle over the trees.
To see those things you have never heard of, or you thought was crazy.In hopes to understand it.Then except it.

 

Those who have fought with rifles to defend the 1st Amendment are the ones who most understand the 2nd Amendment.

Secondly, its not the "authorities" we have to fear most when it comes to restricting our 2nd Amendment rights, it's our own fellow Americans.

Third, ever wonder why this is our 2nd Amendment, not the 5th, or the 10th? Do you think the Bill of Rights were just randomly placed in the order they are?

I also find it ironic that it is people who's thoughts are to the "left" are the ones most likely to want to restrict the 2nd Amendment, and yet they're the ones most likely to resort to violence--ALF, ELF, World Bank protests, etc.

 

Good one dude. Im sure all of us with leftist opinions were part of those violent protests...yea right. Fuck off

 

Haha yeah that's a pretty good point...

Not to downplay the extreme importance of free speech, but maybe if the right to bear arms was the 1st amendment we wouldn't be getting our balls chopped off the way we are.

 

Oh and on the issue of the privatization of schools, I can see that most of you have been brainwashed into thinking that you need the government to hold your hand and do everything for you.

Consider this: When the U.S. Department of Education was started, we were way ahead of most countries when it came to education. We had some of the highest testing scores, on an international level.

Now, after years of the government-controlled public school system, where do we stand?

And why do you suppose that is?

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

 

You just kind of reinforced my point there didn't you?

Also, I didn't say that all leftist were prone to violence, just that when you see such things, they are overwhelmingly leftist.

BTW, those people rioting in France, would you say those are conservatives?

 

It's not the fact that they are leftists that make them violent. I think it's more because under the world's present circumstances, it's the leftists who must struggle the most to get heard. But it's sometomes very difficult, and unfortunately like all humans, some get emotional, frustration arises and violance erupts.

Of course rightist use less violence! They don't have to riot, cause they're the one mainly in power.
I'm not trying to justify violence, I'm just trying to explain it.

 

True. Public school don't offer necessarily a better education, but that's another question. The point was that public school offer the same level of education, whether you're rich or poor.

 

Maybe his point was that in private school you can screen the students, and keep the violent kids out, which may be true to some extent, provided you have an effective way to screen them--rich kids are violent too, sometimes worse.

However, any time you promote segregation, you're asking for violence.

And just maybe, if we could divert a tiny percentage, say a few billion, of the dollars we spend on this useless war toward social programs, we could eliminate much of the violence.

 

No I did not reinforce your point in the slightest. Cussing and violence are actually two different things if you weren't aware.
And yes, you were trying to draw a connection to violent protesters and the left leaning posters here, otherwise you wouldn't have said it.

 

I could put my 2 kids in private school..Yes its a great education.
I am more afraid that my children will disconnect with the symplicity of life.
I want my children to have a good education .Thats why I play an active role in their education..What ever I feel the school is leaving out ,or isn't up to date on I teach them .
What I dont want is 2 genuises doped up on prozac,because the dont know how to enteract with the multitude of life and the reality of that life..
I feel like they are receaving in a way 2 educations attending public school.

 

so true shataraq,
The fact is, that education should start at home. The public school system cannot outfit kids with everything they need to know about life. Parents have to supplement and aid that free education their kids are getting. And of course, learning about real life is more important than any academic subject.

 

I agree that violence and cussing are not the same, but they are similar. I mean who was it that took a civil converstation and turned it vulgar? I don't believe that was me.

And while we both agree that not all left leaners are violent, you never did give me your thoughts on those participating in violent protests being leftist.

 

You want my thoughts on those participating in violent protests being leftist?? what the hell for?? Why dont you give me your thoughts on those involved in hell bent world domination, war profiteering, constitution bending, institutionalized racism and classism, etc...being conservative? Or is that not a fair question?

 

Constitution-bending conservatives, eh?

Don't you think that's a little ironic for that statement to be in this thread? It's the LIBERALS who are TRYING TO ERADICATE THE 2ND AMENDMENT. Conservatives are overwhelmingly pro gun rights.

 

Very well thought over, but you overlooked the most important variable to the equation.

For someone willing to protest an amendment you obviously know very little of our government. The U.S. Government, is trying to slowly but surely, take power away from all of its citizens. And if you haven't realized, it is working.

Only 1 of the original 10 amendments haven't been stripped and deceased yet, and that is Amendment # 3.

Pretty soon, Amendment #2 will be our only means of defense. I personally don't believe in violence and guns, but atleast it'll give them something to consider.

 

Slyde do you care to show how the other 9 amendments are "deceased"?