It most likely won't, but I can't tell you for sure. There's a report somewhere here of a guy who took 100mg of 2ce along with MDMA and said it was a great experience. But, I would say go no higher than 50mg for you first time; it seems to have quite varying effects on different people. I recommend starting at 20mg, just to see how your body reacts. I've done 50mg once, and soon I'll do 60mg. The only downside I've found so far is that I had a somewhat painful headache the day after my 50mg experience. As for the ego, I've gotten a feeling of minor ego loss at 20mg doses, and at my 50mg dose, I experienced quite a powerful ego loss. Not as powerful as DPT, but still something that's worth the experience IMO. Here's the report I wrote up just earlier this summer: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=373837&f=126s
Read this thread. 200mg of 2ce with 500mg of MDMA: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=160038&highlight=MDMA&f=126
......Dude not all psychedelics are created equal. Yes with DMT, LSD, Shrooms there is very little risk of taking too much, just depends on how far you want to go down the rabbit hole. However, with PEAs you must be careful! They cause an ungoldly amount of body load at super high doses, so much so, that you will either probably want to go to the hospital or it just will completely ruin your trip. No offense man, but people who take doses such as the ones you are suggesting for their first trip with a new chem will ruin the scene for others. I'm not suggesting that is your intention, I'm just saying be smarter about it. You go big or go home with Bromo Dragonfly and you are dead.... this was the same attitude that people who have OD'd on RCs have had every time. They took too much! Especially on their first time! These aren't toys and if they are being treated as such, then they need to be taken away from the hands of the child who is using them. Sorry for being a dick but I don't want you to get hurt man. You seem like a very cool, smart guy, but taking first time doses that high is just asking for trouble!
I wouldnt dare take 100 as my FIRST dose with this chem. I was thinking 50 would be good to start, but Im realizing that its kind of expensive. I wanted people to tell me alot about it before I do it because I am not very experienced with PEAs. So, CS, you really experienced ego defeating activity on it? Im not expecting anything close to a DPT ego death type of thing haha, on DPT, the entire concept of individuality goes out the window. TNS, that report was fucking awesome! Thank you for that.
i have heard 2c-e described as not serious at all, yet many of you speak of ego death on it, and complete ++++ experiences. would you say I have heard wrong, or that the reports of it's "sillyness" are largely exaggerated? because if its really this powerful, im getting me some asap. i just wasnt impressed from 2c-c from an entheogenic point of view, as a drug its great, as a vision it never gets started, at least at the dosage i took.
You just have to take some pretty hefty doses to get the full effects of 2ce, and it's definitely not a "silly" trip. It's very dark and edgy/mechanical/electric. It's right on par with LSD, imo, but only at high doses.
i think 2ce is very highly variable in it's effects it will affect everyone differently, and even affect a given person differently with the same dose i've had my most intense trips on 2ce that's for sure (out of 2ce, 2cb, mushrooms and LSD)
in my case it's probably mostly dose related i've taken 2ce up to 20 mg (low by your guys' standards) and only taken up to 3.5 hits of L (kinda low by most standards) i read on BL that 16-18 mg of 2ce is "equal" to 250 mics of L
yes it does i kinda think 2ce is a better trip than L but L is definitely the better drug it feels a lot easier on the body and comes with far less negative side effects for me
yea i'm saying L comes with fewer side effects than 2ce i've at least had mild jaw tension, very very slight nausea, or a bit of insomnia from acid prone, read my "urgent quesion" thread if you haven't already. for some comments on my most recent 2ce trip my feeble attempt at explaining the CEVs
Writer, I would say go for it. Once you work up your dosage, you won't be let down. Just make sure to go into a dark closet with music, and just watch the visuals. What unfolds is amazing. Pr0ne, yeah I've experienced ego loss. It's more of a subtle experience though.. I don't have much to compare it to since the only other thing I've experienced before this was the ego death of DPT, which is way more powerful. I'm sure someone with more psychedelic experience can explain it better than I can.
