25I-NBOMe

^ read the report. I definitely relate to it.
It makes me realize again that there really is something special about LSD.

One thing about the paranoia I forgot to mention is that, although I was socially paranoid and was really worried about being incapacitated if I was needed for a little bit, otherwise I was pretty calm. I knew I took way too much and normally would have been nervous about that. Also, I could have been more scared about the chest and stomach pain, but really wasn't much at all. So, in some ways it was nice. I remember thinking...I wonder why I'm not more scared about my physical health.

Even though my set/setting was pretty bad, I had so much hope for this one, I was thinking it would be like LSD. But it just wasn't.

I still have not tried 4-aco-dmt, so maybe that will make me change my mind, but I've tried a few things now, and nothing is close to as fun and enlightening as LSD except maybe cactus. Maybe I should revisit 2ce or 2ci also, since it's been a long time.

 

^^just re-visit LSD?

i just got to try 4-aco-dmt, and i can vouch for it's clean feeling. absolutely no negative body load, other than the very slightest of headaches near the end. it was psychologically rough the next day or so though. like from a strong LSD trip. i didn't find the trip from 4-aces to be like LSD though.

 

I will re-visit LSD too. It's much harder for me to get right now.

I guess now I'm on a mission to find something legal and easy to get. I think it was because I was thinking about 4-aces for a while, and then was so encouraged by some 25i/25c reports that I got it in my head that it's out there somewhere.

It doesn't have to be LSD like necessarily, as long as I like it as much. I've had some great shroom experiences, and some not so great. So, maybe 4-aces will be something for me.

I think it dawned on me in writing up about 25i that tripping for me is really the childish joy in everything, like I'm rediscovering the world. Whether that world is introverted or extroverted doesn't matter so much as long as the setting is right. Tripping = looking at the world through two new eyes. Good Tripping = Tripping + the joy of discovering it all. All my most meaningful and life-changing trips contained these aspects.

I know I'm leaving out ego-loss, visuals, fear, and insecurity, which also are very meaningful and helpful. But, even those are sort of based on looking at the world through two new eyes. When those less fun sounding things are meaningful for me, it's usually because there's still a lot of joy in discovering them on some level. Not meaningless joy, but very deep joy.

When I was younger and MDMA was around a lot (it was even legal for a while during my life), I always thought it was a bad idea because I felt like it would be phony joy. I don't think I've even had great MDMA, but I still have that general feeling towards it. The joy from tripping is so deeply meaningful. (I guess I'm trying to defend against the thought that I'm just trying to have a good time and not looking for a meaningful experience.)

Maybe I'll get the LSD connection I'm looking for, and won't have to worry about it for a while. If that happens, it will likely be in the summer. But, I still can't afford enough LSD to last me forever....that would be the ultimate.

 

I'm curious as to why you have a feeling that MDMA provides phony joy but the joy from LSD is somehow more meaningful?

 

Now that you point it out, I think my logic is off.

I always heard from the start that MDMA just makes you happy, so I felt like it was too easy. My impression was that it wasn't that you thought hard about the universe and that made you happy, but that you were just happy. When I really think about it now with more knowledge, my impression now is more that it allows you to see beauty in others and everything and that makes you happy, rather than the other way around.

On the other side, my though process was that you kind of have to work to convert the effects or LSD into joy. Since things could make me not happy with a bad trip or something, that made it seem that the joy was not guaranteed so it was more real. Maybe since it wasn't a direct consequence of the drug in my mind at the time. I also knew people who didn't enjoy LSD much because they didn't enjoy looking at themselves deeply. (Now most of the people I know who trip have already tried it and enjoy it.)

Now that you mention it, though, it really is the same thing for me right now. I'm almost guaranteed a good trip from LSD, probably about as much as MDMA if I tried it these days. I know that empathy on MDMA might cause me to cry or something too.

So, I guess that same thing that I thought was not genuine about MDMA joy could be said about the LSD joy. I know now that I can certainly trip without a strong joy aspect, so with LSD the trip isn't necessarily causing the joy.

I'd still rather experience the joy while tripping too. So the fact that it coincides with tripping may make it more meaningful to me, but I've come to the realization in the last 15 minutes that just the joy aspect of LSD is not any more valid than the joy aspect of MDMA.

 

oops.

 

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Quality observations there...

Towards the end I couldn't help but remember Ren and Stimpy and their happy/joy song. MDMA could be the "happy helmet" ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8c86Q0fUT0"]happy happy joy joy - YouTube

 

Ive got 1 gram of 25i-nbome free base powder i want to put it into solution but i know the free base is notoriously hard to dissolve so i was looking for some feed back as to the best way of doing this.
My plan right now is to dissolve 50 mg 25I into 3 ml distilled vinegar to convert it into a acetate salt and then dilute the resulting solution in 47 ml of distilled h2o resulting in a 1mg per ml solution which could be administered nasally I figured I could alliteratively dissolve the vinegar 25i solution into 22ml 95% isp. alcohol to create a 1mg per .5 ml solution which i could then use to create blotters if i wanted to.
has anyone tried anything like this? do these sound like decent methods i know this thread is huger and this may have been covered so i apologize ahead of time if this is repetitious

 

I am wondering the same thing as the above poster.

 

i guess ill let you know tomarrow

 

I dunno but a ml. or so of liquid seems a lot, I'd maybe recommend 23.5 ml. That way .5 ml. will accompany each mg.

 

Anyone that walks me through it will get a gift from god.

 

still waiting delivery but ill do it out to .5 ml to mg that probably will work better mid west ill walk you through it when i get it

 

would 6apb go swell with say 1.5mg of 25i?

 

So my 25i came a couple days ago and I was gonna wait till until some other stuff arived before I touch it. Well my other supplies came today and I started prepping materials to complex it and it turnd out my scale took a poop on me. new batteies didnt fix the problem so nowi gotta wait for even more stuff.
AAahugHhh.
hopefully it lives to the hype as I have several thousand doses...

 

Hi all tried this chem twice now i live in oz and was loving this chem, was ordering the complexed blotters from a uk site but jus had a package seized found a listing on ebay from Australia for complexed blotters 800mics anybody else tried these?..

 

i love this chem too, it helped my mind discover new information, possibly by the universe, because how can the mind just teach you new things from nothing?

 

If u try to buy those fro ebay they might freeze you pay pal account. As pay pal dose not want anythind to do with RC's.

 

buying drugs on ebay is pretty dumb.

 

I would compare it more to LSD than to psylocibin mushrooms. I did another really large dose more recently and got even stronger visuals than that last trip, I did even more this time without any 4-FA and my short term memory seemed to fail to work very well through the duration, but I didn't feel quite as scatter brained. The visuals were phenomenal.

I was in the back yard and I walked inside and the first thing I saw when I looked up was my friend wearing an orange and white plaid jacket. When I looked around after that, anything I looked at was orange and white plaid. The walls, the fridge, the floor, everything looked white and orange plaid.

At one point I looked at my arm and there seemed to be some sort of tubes that were running around it for some reason. At another time I was looking at a piece of weed and it looked like there were purple hairs coming off of it (which there wasn't), and then it somehow looked like it was radiating energy in the form of a field spreading out spherically away from the nug. It was pretty weird and super cool