2020 Election

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  1. Beach Ball Lady Balls

    Beach Ball Lady Balls Banned

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    you don’t think so ? Or do you know for certain? If you know for certain please explain how. and in doing so please tell me what affiliations and cultural tradionitions you current share with native peoples and regularly participate in? You can’t just claim like Warren.
     
  2. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    And leftists score the lowest in independent thought, logic, reason, and intellect. But they score high in feelings and emotions.

    There’s a difference between regular justice and social justice.


    I am not
    If I would’ve made the meme I would’ve made that dragon’s head day Jingoism, which is nationalism in its ugliest form: The belief that one’s nation is never wrong and always correct. Or I would have made it Globalism. Nationalism promotes a nation’s individualism, where as globalism is a planetary collective that eradicates nation individualism and sovereignty
     
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  3. soulcompromise

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    how are we measuring 'independent thought' by the way...
     
  4. Tishomingo

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    But 6 eyed shaman quotes her a lot, as though she's an authority.
     
  5. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    According to 6 eyes... Or according to reality?
     
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  6. soulcompromise

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    hehe

    I think he had a study that he's referring to with that. I'm just wondering how they meant to measure that objectively.

    Also, the thing about feelings vs. thought or what have you. It doesn't seem really accurate. I've made the assumption in the past that the conservative mindset seemed rather traditional which give me the impression that they'd like to go by their instincts - thus feelings. I don't know. Could be I'm reading into things incorrectly or that I've misinterpreted.
     
  7. Flagme15

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    It appears that you don't know the first thing about economics.
     
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  8. Vladimir Illich

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    He doesn't know about dialectic materialism either !!!
     
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  9. Flagme15

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    can you simplify it for him?
     
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    The rabbi who is neighbor to Mark and Patricia McCloskey speaks out: ‘They are bullies’
     
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  11. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Marx is a piece of shit.
     
  12. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Karl Marx? I don't think so. Are there questions about him as a person? I'm under the impression he was an academic.


    Anyway, from what I understand the republicans have outfunded democrats in their efforts to retain senate seats. Honestly, I don't think we'll gain control of the senate with so many red states on the map, but who knows...
     
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  13. 6-eyed shaman

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    His big- hearted small-brained ideas led to the death of 100 million people across the globe
     
  14. Tyrsonswood

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    I didn't realize Karl Marx was running in this election... So I fail to see your point.
     
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  15. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    What? She's already come up here and is the poster child for the right wing.

    If you want to talk bogyman who was Saul Alinsky? As far as I can tell he had a meeting with Obama one time in college and that informed literally his entire life. The Democratic party is evil and socialist because Saul told them to be.

    Or what about Bill Gates? People are fine using Windows until 2019 then he became Satan himself.

    The left wing is not the one that makes a mountain out of a mole hill.
     
  16. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    They read her work a lot for not liking her very much.

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-embraces-ayn-rand-disdain-masses-579685

    Donald Trump's secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, has said Ayn Rand's novel "Atlas Shrugged" is his favorite book. Mike Pompeo, head of the CIA, cited Rand as a major inspiration. Before he withdrew his nomination, Trump's pick to head the Labor Department, Andrew Puzder, revealed that he devotes much free time to reading Rand.

    Such is the case with many other Trump advisers and allies: The Republican leader of the House of Representatives, Paul Ryan, famously made his staff members read Ayn Rand. Trump himself has said that he's a "fan" of Rand and "identifies" with Howard Roark, the protagonist of Rand's novel, "The Fountainhead," "an architect who dynamites a housing project he designed because the builders did not precisely follow his blueprints."

    As a philosopher, I have often wondered at the remarkable endurance and popularity of Ayn Rand's influence on American politics. Even by earlier standards, however, Rand's dominance over the current administration looks especially strong.
    ecently, historian and Rand expert Jennifer Burns wrote how Rand's sway over the Republican Party is diminishing. Burns says the promises of government largesse and economic nationalism under Trump would repel Rand.

    That was before the president unveiled his proposed federal budget that greatly slashes nonmilitary government spending—and before Paul Ryan's Obamacare reform, which promised to strip health coverage from 24 million low-income Americans and grant the rich a generous tax cut instead. Now, Trump looks to be zeroing in on a significant tax cut for the rich and corporations.

    These all sound like measures Rand would enthusiastically support, in so far as they assist the capitalists and so-called job creators, instead of the poor.

    Though the Trump administration looks quite steeped in Rand's thought, there is one curious discrepancy. Ayn Rand exudes a robust elitism, unlike any I have observed elsewhere in the tomes of political philosophy. But this runs counter to the narrative of the Trump phenomenon: Central to the Trump's ascendancy is a rejection of elites reigning from urban centers and the coasts, overrepresented at universities and in Hollywood, apparently.
     
  17. Tishomingo

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    Only in Prager U. apologetics. Social justice, or distributive justice, is "regular justice" Just ask Aristotle, who covered it in the third section of the fifth book of The Nicomachean Ethics.. For those unfamiliar with this sleazy operation, P.U. isn't a real university but a right wing propaganda mill noted for Extreme Right, Propaganda, Poor Sourcing, Mixed Fact Checking. PragerU - Media Bias/Fact Check The young airhead who is delivering this particular lecture is unlikely to have published an article in a refereed journal, or even read one. Allie Stucky is hostess of Relatable on right wing Blaze TV, and an Evangelical (Reformed) Calvinist Christian--i.e., a narrow minded Puritan. She starts off by confusing distributive and commutative justice and delivering the earth shaking insight that when the Bible speaks of Justice, it doesn't put "Social" before the word. No, that term came later, but it's abundantly clear from the context that God is for Social Justice.
    Does God Care About Social Justice?
    What Does the Bible Say About Social Justice?
    7 Bible Verses About Social Justice
    John Rawls argued persuasively that social justice is fairness, and used a deontological/contractarian framework to identify the practices of a just social order in terms of what reasonable people designing such an order would come up with in a condition of radical ignorance, without knowing whether they would be born male or female, rich or poor, black or white, etc. He argues they would opt for a system in which all inequalities would operate for the benefit of the least advantaged member of society. Runciman, in Relative Deprivation and Social Justice, argues further that they would surely also opt for a safety net to prevent the unlucky from perishing. Makes sense to me.
     
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  18. scratcho

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    I can see Ayn Rands point as she was an atheist. If she believed this was it and there was no guiding/determining afterlife where one would be judged and perhaps punished----and that it was not at all to ones advantage to be empathetic or caring in dealing with "commoners" then what possible difference would anything a person did while alive matter. Do whatever to whomever to get everything you feel you deserve. Ridiculous to believe in mythic consequences. Of course it's been 50 years since I read her books, so maybe I'm off some.
     
  19. soulcompromise

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    it's funny... no one else ever mentioned that. he's like a feature in the sociology curriculum at school; albeit a minor one. Well, maybe not minor - he's a major theorist. He contributed significantly to conflict theory.

    He's not the only one saying what he says either. There are lots of theorists with differing perspectives.
     
  20. Tishomingo

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    I know for certain that I'm 1/4 Chickasaw and 3/4 Native American. That's what my CDIB says. I participate in powwows from time to time. So what about you? Are you really Native American? Are you really Canadian? Are you gainfully employed? What are your income sources? Does anyone pay you for your posts?
     
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