2020 Election

Not really, its not like the whole 'flower power generation' was into flower power. Besides, a majority seems to have 'sold out' to 'the man' at some point.
Anyway, the former generation as a whole may have had a significant negative impact on the global state, but for a large part unknowingly. Most of us would make the same mistake if we lived in that time. It's not about blame. But about acknowledging the negative impact and tendence of that way of consuming.
Btw: that a lot of 'millennials' are rallying against it is also because so many were so ingrained during their upbringing with these 'flower power' principles and concerns. They are now becoming mainstream

 

The democrats didn't need the voters to fuck this up, they did a fine job of it themselves. Which is why their voter turnout is so low, people are just plain confused. We know they can't possibly accomplish their wish list items in 1 or even 2 terms. Such changes require more than a decade, possibly a generation. So the only way that will happen is by either dominating the political landscape so that republicans never have a prayer again (using the California model). Or, they will have to form a bipartisan coalition that's dedicated to what will benefit the Americans.

Instead, the democrats pushed hard on all the weirdest far left fantasies they could dig up, especially the ones that exert even more governmental control over our lives. I know it's shocking, but even democrat voters don't want that. Sure, they want all the free shit and all the feelings-based legislation possible, but that's child-like thinking. It insults people with intelligence on either side.

Of course democrats are not going to vote for republicans, so they'll do what a lot of voters do when they are frustrated with the choices, stay home. In that respect I'd agree with "gutless". Except that they don't have any real choices now, the front runners are steeped in crony politics and back room deals. This is all happening because democrats can't possibly imagine they could be wrong about something.

 

The irony is, it was Boomers who came up with the slogan: "Never trust anybody over thirty". Wonder what the millennial's grandchildren will call them when they turn 65?

 

But it's interesting how the candidates that have dropped out of the race have endorsed Biden over Bernie. It's as if they knew all along that their 'weirdest far left fantasies' would never sell in the general election. In fact, I believe this to be the case.

 

So true, but a majority of supposedly progressive people don't actually seem to know this or simply ignore this (with hopeless consequences. They help create their own hopelessness... )

Yeah, likely the latter. And imo by voting unconventional. The main thing is to get a majority of voters to commit to that.

I think you're wrong here, they really are not like kids that simply want stuff for free because the gubberment could make it so. A significant amount of left leaning voters have faith and put good thought in certain (seemingly far fetched) 'socialist' smelling ideas. But maybe we're not thinking about the same far left fantasies here?

They limit their own choices. Left leaning voters should leave the democrat party behind for several years. It will either pump some sense in democrat politicians or open up totally new possibilities.

 

Oh I agree. It's what led to the mass confusion of the democrat base. They were being pulled in all kinds of ridiculous directions. It was especially troubling the lengths they went to in making their only viable candidate, Joe Biden, look like a buffoon on the world stage. Trump didn't have to lift a finger.

Dividing the democrats was the dumbest political move I have ever seen them pull. They are so far over the line that when Trump wins I expect them to start reprisals, against each other.

 

Looking at the behavior of Republicans, especially the Tea Party, during the Obabma Administration, and their behavior now, and all those candidates on the Republican stage for the 2016 campaign, and the Never Trump movement, your criticism of the Democrats for this sounds way hypocritical.

 

true

 

If he would be a republican I can see why you would say this. But didn't he vote at least once for Obama?

 

As long as the whole left has to do it with one party and this party is in a convenient position because of that, the democrats will likely always be divided to a problematic extent. Real progressives will always be duped in the current lousy system. It's becoming obsolete, and I don't think im exaggerating by stating this.

 

So he says.

 

He also didn't say shit about the Republican party, as if they're better in those aspects.

 

I thought the Tea party was pretty tame. It was the left and their media buddies who tried to make them seem like the KKK reincarnated as elderly Americans trying not to get taxed into financial ruin. The same left that insists that we're mired in white supremacy now. It's the same bullshit story and I'm not buying it.

Obama had it far easier than he should have with all the stupid ideas he let take form (like Cash for Clunkers). But ANYONE who dared to say anything about him was instantly labeled as a "racist". It was a tactic for shutting people down instead of establishing critical dialog, something citizens have a right to in the US. I liked the idea of Obama, but it was a failure. And it was a failure because it focused only on divisive issues and preyed on the "payback" mentality (you know all about that).

It's amazing to me all the potential that was squandered with the Obama administration. How can anyone think dividing people is constructive? Only a few people benefit from a divided nation. And it's not the citizens.

 

I remember around the time of the tea party people in my then town (I moved) would walk their dogs like they were the Gestapo! It seemed like there was an element of whiteness that I couldn't really grasp...

 

I can't even visualize that. It sounds like a media narrative. I'm fairly sure a dog can't be taught to goose step. Horses, sure, but dogs?!?!?!?

Is there any video of these gestapo dog walkers?

 

What I mean is, they were marching around! Like a "don't get in my way" kind of a vibe. And from older folks... over fifty doing that.

EDIT: no video, no. Sorry. lol

 

That is very strange coming from a Republican. Are you feeling OK 6 Eye?

 

Could it be they were acting like arrogant, privileged, wealthy assholes?

 

Ah, the financial ruin of letting the Bush tax cuts expire for the top 2% of income earners.

 

I don't know.

Because sociology goes to great lengths to bring folks up to speed on the current social state of affairs. It raises lots of awareness. I'm sure you can find that a viable concept.

We value mathematics so highly, but I don't actually use math that much... Either I'm lazy or average or I'm living wrong or something, but the only time I use math is to balance my checkbook or something. Or budgeting in an Excel spreadsheet. In either case the heavy lifting is done for me.

P.S. Also to calculate the tip at a restaurant.