2020 Election

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Deleted member 42017, Jan 1, 2019.

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  1. Bernie sold his integrity for a vacation home.
     
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  2. You're confused. She was wildly unpopular. Trump isn't even popular. He's a terrible candidate and she couldn't even beat him. If she had been popular she would have blown him away.

    I guess I should be amused instead of frustrated about how Clintonites are looking back on Hillary. At the time they were doing their damnedest to convince almost everyone that she was this glittering personality, and now they look back and just think everyone loved her. Kind of ironic. I'll just be amused.
     
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  3. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Wildly unpopular? I think not. More Americans voted for her than for ny other losing presidential candidate in US history. She outpaced Trump by almost 2.9 million votes--65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%), according to revised and certified final election results from all 50 states and the District of Columbia. And that despite the best efforts of Comey, wikileaks, Russia's army of trolls and bots. Breitbart. Fox, the National Enquirer, and the 4-chan Pizzagate hoax that certain gullible people bought into. It's official: Clinton swamps Trump in popular vote - CNNPolitics Surely not "everyone" loved her (I certainly didn't), but she had her fans, as does the Donald. Not everyone loves Bernie either, and it remains to be seen what kind of a candidate he would be.
     
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  4. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I think he would do it kind of like he does the senate.

    I liked Kamala Harris but as time progresses I feel more and more like I'm in full Biden mode. He has been a politician forever, and that means something to me.
     
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    Headlines that read " Biden's surprising strength " or " can he be stopped "should be greeted with concern and extreme skepticism. It's beginning to look as though the media is trying to shape yet another race before one single vote has been cast.
    Is this what the voters want or do they want an open and honest exchange of ideas upon which a majority decide in one way or another which person they want?

    Every time a voter reads these headlines support for other candidates is weakened by design.

    Careful, the media is already working to anoint a candidate before any votes are counted.
     
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  6. Yes, wildly unpopular. You're confused.
     
  7. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    So money and success make someone somehow unfit for politics? As if we can not trust them.
    What about Trump who with all his "winning" in business. In that case it's a good thing.

    Sanders has some money and yet is still socialist. It's something the right wing can not understand. He should be greedy they say and wealth is impossible under social democracy. Of course the evil goverment will simply punish you for it. They have mansions and Ferrari's in Sweden. The tax on owning on such a useless car that gets 9 miles per gallon is high. The goverment would rather you take the bus like your high tax paid for or maybe own an electric car. But if a person works hard enough they have the personal choice to own what they want.

    The salary of a US goverment employee tends to be very good. Sanders has what many other men with his jobs have had. He also still has the same platform and is not taking the lobbyist donations other Democrats do. To me he has integrity.
     
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  8. Okiefreak

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    Oh that media! The latest poll by FOX, which everyone knows is biased, shows Trump losing in 2020 to Biden by 7 percentage points and to Sanders by 3 percentage points. Gotta watch :em. Latest Fox News 2020 poll has bad news for Trump, good news for Democrats
     
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    All this talk about polls and the Democrats havent even had their first debate yet. Polls are measuring name recognition at this point
     
  10. Polls tell people what the situation supposedly is, and the people all react accordingly. "Oh, only Biden can win!" DERR. It's just mass orchestration. It makes me sick.
     
  11. Okiefreak

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    Well. I'd say that Trump has pretty good name recognition, so the fact that Biden and Bernie are beating him in a Fox poll and he's getting 38-41% of the vote gives me hope. And I apologize. I reported the next to latest Fox poll. The May Fox poll puts Biden ahead of TYrump by 11 percentage points, Bernie ahead of him by 8 percentage points and Elizabeth Warren ahead by 7 points.Lara Trump unconcerned by new 2020 election poll showing Biden, Sanders and Warren ahead of President Trump My point being that this is coming from Fox so is unlikely to be a sinister plot cooked up by progressive Democrats.
     
  12. Okiefreak

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    That's not what the poll said. Biden, Bernie and Elizabeth Warren would win if the election were held today.
     
  13. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Your post history suggests otherwise. You've defended the censorship of contrary and controversial opinions harder than you defended that D-rate Ghostebusters remake.

    I agree it's necessary to call these people out. They aren't correct with everything they say and do. But when their voices are being silenced from major arteries of the internet, it seems to me like it's their opponents who've lost the argument and are resorting to drastic measures. As the Antifa motto states: "By any means necessary."

    Political correctness was an effective weapon to guilt and shame people into speaking against the mainstream narrative. Now that the slaves are breaking from their shackles of political correctness, it's all about silencing the rebellion.

    BLM has been pretty much out of the news ever since the 2016 election. It's as if it is a fad that has run its course and died, like Pogs. The media had to find something new to divide the country over after Trump got in. I see this as a good thing as BLM was doing nothing but fanning the flames of racial division under our first black president. You speak of Jim Crow laws like they still exist; they do not. Nobody alive today is old enough to remember or have lived through the turmoils and struggles of legal slavery. African Americans have made significant strides since those days. Asian Americans are doing pretty well after their persecution too. Asians had their land and property confiscated by FDR, and never got redeemed for it after the war. Now, they are earning more per capita than any other race including whites.

    Economic Marxism failed to take over the Americas and Western Europe in the 20th century. Today, Cultural Marxism is picking up the pieces and succeeding where Economic Marxism failed.
     
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    I mean in general, not in this particular poll

    It seems silly to put so much faith in early polling. Polling figures will likely change after the first debate
     
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  15. He took an obvious bribe. So yes, he's unfit for office.
     
  16. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    The old school republicans are now extinct, and Biden is the only remaining viable vestige of liberal politics. He remains until liberals become an extinct species and the Neo-Nazis take over the mass media completely. The idea the left wing is going to make a surprise comeback belies the evidence of the last twenty years of their demise. They either pull a rabbit out of a hat, or concede the field, and if Oprah is elected the Neo-Nazis may declare total war.
     
  17. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Why do you want him to be unfit for office? ;)
     
  18. I don't understand this question. I don't "want" anyone to be unfit for office. All I want from Bernie at this point is for him to shut the fuck up and back the fuck out. He's a waste of airwave traffic.
     
  19. Asmodean

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    Why?
     
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    He didnt take a bribe. The money he has now is from his book sales. You cant believe something is true just because you want it to be true.

    You dont need to bribe someone to make them see the folly in contesting the results of the Democratic primaries. The fracture of the party and subsequent election of Trump would have been blamed solely on Sanders if he had done anything besides throw his support behind Hillary
     
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