2020 Election

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  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Her 'deplorables' comment seemed sincere (but backfired) :p
     
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  2. Which is exactly why I don't pick a party. There's nothing in either that I find to be benevolent. Both sides do the bare ass minimum possible to placate Americans. Except during an election cycle when both sides are promising shit that also has a 3:1 chance of happening.

    I've been waiting for legalized marijuana since 1975. I figured then that once we voted out the old people, our generation would come in and fix this. And yet, it never happened.

    As for Clinton, what's really telling is how Chelsea reacted to an "activist" who had the nerve to berate her for attending an event for the New Zealand mosque attack. This fool even went as far as to suggest that it was Clinton rhetoric that led to some nut shooting people in a house of worship. Chelsea looked visibly shocked that she, a rabid leftist, would possibly be catching crap for this. Then she responded as if talking to a child. Not such a good move.
     
  3. MeAgain

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    The statement was: "I'm stating that objectively, Obama dropped more bombs than his predecessor, in seven countries, and only 2 of those countries we had declared war on."
    Obama deployed troops under the War Powers Resolution, which defines how many troops may be deployed for how long by the president.

    If we had a declared war Washington could seize railroads, auto manufacturers, coal mines, steel mills, banks, etc as they did in WWII. During WWII they even seized the Montgomery Ward department store chain.
     
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  4. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    When certain members pound the Like button on posts that display my nastiest written character assassinations, it strikes me as hatefully natured. Posts that call me racist, worse-than-racist, and white supremacist are very hateful. In this current political climate, labeling and smearing someone as a white supremacist is insighting violence against that person. Because if enough people literally believed the person is an actual white supremacist, they risk having themselves and their families doxed, and a gang of black clad Bolshevik wannabes showing up at their doorstep.

    I don’t hate anyone on here, but because of these accusations I do believe I have genuine haters on here though.

    But I’m used to it though. Racist seems to have a new definition: anyone who defies the far-left hive mind.
     
  5. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    I think you may come across as basically a propagandist whose main concern seems to be "How can I spin the facts to advance my agenda". You're most sincere when defending the right to free speech absolutism, defined as the right to mislead. Stirring up hate by painting groups like Muslims with an overbroad brush can indeed lead to unfortunate actions against the targeted groups.
     
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  6. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    and accurate.
     
  7. That's the beauty of the term; it has no limits or boundaries. Since I think that border control, including barriers that can be seen from orbit, is good for all nations, I'm a "racist". Even though I don't want to see tens of thousands of illegal Swedes or Icelanders waltzing across the border either. That's what's so cool about racism. It's totally fluid.

    So naturally if you disagree with climate degradation, you're a racist. But wait, there's more. Thanks to the ingenuity of people who actually read Marx, Alinsky and Carnegie the label can be slapped onto you for all kinds of opinions. What's more? You can also be labeled for what you DON'T say/write. And the labels have also been enhanced.

    Thanks to the very cheap option of "phobe" just about every kind of event or circumstance can be refashioned into a target of "oppression" for simply being questioned. I've been called a "homophobe" because I have suggested that gay or straight, I seriously don't want to know any details of your sex life. And I'm positive you don't want to know any details about mine. I don't have to tolerate sex-centric discussions, so I don't. Most of what I have experienced is a bunch of whining and griping.

    I wonder what kind of -phobe I am for disliking Country AND Rap music.
     
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  8. Asmodean

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    I agree. But yeah, just goes to demonstrate that making a sincere and accurate statement doesn't always has the desired effect either.
     
  9. Asmodean

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    Can't say I don't understand why people are disliking you on here. If one is predominantly pot stirring, generalizing in a polarizing way and acts serious while they're kind of joking on serious topics that's what will taint a perception.
     
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  10. Meliai

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    I've never even seen anyone call him a racist or white supremacist lol, look at 6 all triggered over a "like"
     
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    Could be a side effect of those "woke" pills
     
  12. Meliai

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    Woke AF
     
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    Joe Biden was in my state this weekend

    He said Jim Crow was coming back due to unjust laws that unfairly punished the black community and resulted in the mass incarceration of black men

    .....he wrote some of those laws
     
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  15. Oh we've seen this before from Joe, in 2012 when he tried to tar and feather Romney with it.
    MSNBC Guest Defends Biden's 'Back in Chains' Comment About Romney
    'They're going to put y'all back in chains' (Updated)

    At that time I thought it was a childish jab, but it did dovetail very well with Romney's "binders of women" gaff.

    What's interesting is how both parties are pushing this shit at the same time now. The GOP is trying to say that democrats owned all the slaves, when party affiliation had little to do with it (it was something wealthy people did, not everyday Americans).

    And the democrats are seeking more contemporary examples like Jim Crow (which actually was the creation of a cabal of democrats ushered by president Wilson, a southerner who ran as a New Jersey politician and became the first southerner in the white house since before the civil war).

    It's a scare tactic that targets ignorant black Americans. The very idea that Jim Crow or slavery could be re-instituted in the US is preposterous. It's more likely that any form of slavery would snare all Americans this time. In many ways it already has in the form of punitive taxes and fees for government services that have already been purchased through taxation.

    Jim Crow of course was not a politician but a fictional character in a song. Consider the lyrics

    Come, listen all you gals and boys, Ise just from Tuckyhoe;
    I'm goin, to sing a little song, My name's Jim Crow.

    CHORUS [after every verse]
    Weel about and turn about and do jis so,
    Eb'ry time I weel about I jump Jim Crow.

    I went down to the river, I didn't mean to stay;
    But dere I see so many gals, I couldn't get away.

    And arter I been dere awhile, I tought I push my boat;
    But I tumbled in de river, and I find myself afloat.

    I git upon a flat boat, I cotch de Uncle Sam;
    Den I went to see de place where dey kill'd de Pakenham.

    And den I go to Orleans, an, feel so full of flight;
    Dey put me in de calaboose, an, keep me dere all night.

    When I got out I hit a man, his name I now forgot;
    But dere was noting left of him 'cept a little grease spot.

    And oder day I hit a man, de man was mighty fat
    I hit so hard I nockt him in to an old cockt hat.

    I whipt my weight in wildcats, I eat an alligator;
    I drunk de Mississippy up! O! I'm de very creature.

    I sit upon a hornet's nest, I dance upon my bead;
    I tie a wiper round my neck an, den I go to bed.

    I kneel to de buzzard, an, I bow to the crow;
    An eb'ry time I weel about I jump jis so.


    People came up with some twisted shit back then!
     
  16. Asmodean

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    I was thinking of nuancing/correcting him there too, but he worded it rather well:

    The few people who repeatedly do this (and yes, its pretty noticable) DO sound rather far left (as in extreme) when they do so. But its only one or two who do this unnuanced and in a way it becomes nonsensical. Like insisting a dislike or argument against islam or mainstream muslims has got to be racist. It was not. Even if its still discriminary (which it often is, 6-eyed) its not racist. So yeah, that's a setup for failure.

    But to be fair; when it gets pointed out (like Balbus for example often and adequately does) it is discriminary or sounds racist, or that he buys into the same arguments as white supremacists or the (stereo)typical white insecure man that denies any kind of white privilege, 6-eyed also often tries to set it away as faulty leftist babbling.
     
  17. 6-eyed shaman

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    Some people can’t handle it when their holiest beliefs are defied, and their lifelong indoctrinations are shat upon I suppose.

    Guess I have an occasional tendency to concoct my posts in a way to get a rise out of others. I’m not trying to be a people pleaser; those days are long over.




    Then you’re not paying attention.

    If I couldn’t handle being called all those words, I wouldn’t be on here.
     
  18. 6-eyed shaman

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    Double post
     
  19. Meliai

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    No one really thinks you're challenging anyone or shitting on their views though, they just think you're spitting out the same illogical propaganda talking points we all hear over and over ad nauseum
     
  20. Asmodean

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    I think i know who you're referring to here and yups. But this also is not why the average regular poster participating in convos on political and societal topics are kind of tired and annoyed with you. Hope you see that too.

    You're aware those are two different things?
    And occassionally charging a post or argument shouldn't be an issue. It's your general convo style which made you disliked. Or better said made your convo style/you as a convo partner disliked. But since this is all we see from eachother on a discussion board... I think you get it.

    You're regularly (ab)using the rare libtard argument and criticism to parry valid arguments and criticism by other left leaning people though, by deliberately equating the two with eachother and so conveniently excuse yourself from constructive response.
     
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