2020 Election

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  1. But is that a personal opinion? Or is it your estimation of his actual chances? Biden's not only good on paper, he has more history than anyone else who is running, democrat or republican.

    The core of the 2020 effort needs to be winning. Ideals and details can follow. It's like being in heavy traffic; you can maintain your lane the whole way home, or you can adjust it constantly in an effort to get ahead of changing traffic signals. After all, getting through the light is more important than the lane you are presently in. You can always change that after the traffic behind you is forced to stop.

    Biden was unappealing when Obama picked him. Everybody in Washington was scratching their heads on that one. Why in the hell would America's first black president pick an old honkey as a running mate?
     
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    I had a dream of Trump . Seems he is obsessively content with being Space Force Commander . He has a special uniform .
    It's green , and the 3-piece suit has David Bowie shoulder wings .

    Mike Pence is your President . Remove Trump from office now and you'll have Pence for 10 more years . Perhaps he is a
    competent administrator . As for this presidential commander-in-chief crap .. it's a constitutional flaw . This position of expertise
    should be a carefully deliberated appointment . Consensus recommended .
     
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  3. You illustrate one of the primary flaws in leftist thinking; failure to consider the long game. Oh sure, they consider the long range goals, but goals are not a plan. At the moment, and for the last 2 years the plan has been essentially the goal, "get rid of Trump". The rabid devotion to the result has created a plethora of disconnected, short-term plans scattered in every direction.

    The lack of focus on what's best beyond getting rid of Trump is where they are missing the starting gun. If they keep on this modus, they will not be prepared for 2024. It's pretty clear they are clueless for 2020. Do democrats really think having such a massive bull pen is going to work for them? Consider how well it worked out for the republicans in 2016.
     
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    It's all very sexy , huh . Oops , not as a matter of fertility . Nihilism needs to be buried in the garden . It's
    ok fertilizer .
     
  5. Um...
     
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    The focus is hate .The lack of focus given to the public mind is bewitchment . It's a hard-ass resistance
    with a sense of retribution . And sex magic ? Cheezus Crackers ! Please help the focus be of advancing
    democracy through great ideas .

    Conservatives have asked for a constitutional convention . Why not meet them head-on
    and fearlessly ? Well , it could be a council of a respectable 144 : 72 men , 72 women .
     
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    Gee, I didn't know I was being rude. Seems that you are unwilling to listen to a differing opinion. The difference between you, and me. I won't be disappointed if Sanders gets the nomination, whereas I think you will be disappointed if Biden does.
     
  8. The DNC will do everything in its power to prevent Sanders from getting the nomination.
     
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    Of course i will be disappointed.
    Of course thats my personal opinion. I know Biden has a good chance, I just dont understand why.

    And I dont really feel like America has the luxury to ignore ideals and detail right now, why would we do that? Does not compute.
     
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  10. That's the crux of it. Why?

    As I see it, he's a safe bet. He knows everybody in Washington and that's what most presidential hopefuls have going in; decades of carefully crafted relationships. Most of the gaggle running for the democratic nomination have nothing but popularity points and then only with the public.

    Biden has a Rolodex that's decades old/long.
     
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  11. I think Bernie is toasted now. Everybody saw him get bought off by the DNC to prop up Grandma Clinton. They know already that he has a price, so he's a perfect target for extortion and/or bribery.
     
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    Joe Biden likes to prostitute himself to the big end of town were the money is. American values.
     
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    I thought he was set aside, not bought off?
     
  14. It shut him up, it was damage control to mainline Hillary to the top seat.
     
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    So bought off is a bit of poetic liberty.
     
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    Bernie , however grumpily , was obliged to give statements of support for Hillary as election day neared .
    Very grumpy , Bernie . And you still are . He needs Mr. Bluebird on his shoulder .
     
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    Kamala Harris was a 'tough on crime' criminal prosecutor and attorney general.

    Kamala Harris’s controversial record on criminal justice, explained

    In 2004 we had Dennis Kusssinich, who was for getting out of Iraq, for single payer healthcare, for gay marriage, and for tuition free college. He was 14 years ahead of his time.

    Biden was where the party was at the time on almost all issues, and this sometimes seem regressive now (DOMA). But the party has come a long way. I respect your opinions, but I can nearly guarantee you, today you hold values which will seen as regressive by your grandkids generation. I think the way we as a society treat children will be a lot of this.

    Biden is our grandparents generation. I don't think changing ones opinion about criminal justice over 30 years is an 'oops' sort of thing at all. I think people should be allowed to have their opinions evolve, and change when presented with evidence.

    Of course I expect Biden to show that he's changed and layout how he's now in favor of criminal justice reform. If he doesn't, then he deserves some of the progressive scorn.

    I still feel that Biden, Sanders, and Trump are just too old. I don't think it's ageist.... they're going to be past the median age of death in their next term old. There's a very high chance that we'll be voting on a VP to finish out the term.
     
  18. Biden makes bad decisions, plain and simple. You're free to evolve all you like, but at the end of the day a leopard doesn't change its spots. All he's proven with his track record is that if it's popular enough with the establishment he'll get behind it.
     
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    Trump leaves cannabis up to the States. Grow it and prosper before the dems move in and tax the shit out of you.
     
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    I don't think "the dems" are likely to do that, cuz they tend to be more librul on the issue than Republicans, Biden notwithstanding.
     
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