2012

I once read a book which said that in 2012 this era would end and a new one would start. the message was possitive and that message was very welcome at that time cuz I was really depressed about the future of our world.

it said we would start re-creating a new world or something. it seems to me that the shift from male energy to female energy would fit this perfectly.

but i'll wait first...

 

all calenders are arbitrary. an i think that's a big part of the point that so many seem to be missing. chainges of spirit energy in this world happen too. and then sometimes events fallow. but this whole obsession with big things, good or bad, and trying to pin them to some future dates are like a parlour game of collecting bugs with pins stuck through them. i think people are just being silly because people like being silly.

this isn't what bothers me. what bothers me is when people use differences in their sillyness as excuses to hurt each other.

i don't believe any of us know specificly what is going to happen when, other then to plot triends and counter trends and their slope intersects and all that.

i do look forward to seeing each new thing i have yet to. in some cases with a bit of dread, but not totaly because reality is never all one thing.

we could be in the middle of the worst of it right now and never know it till we're on the other side with things getting better.

that's what i'd like to see. and if we're not we're not.

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and end doesnt mean distruction only a new beginning MAYBE...

ya neva know

maybe were just goin down the rabbit hole and thats why it stinks cuz everything is shitty down the rabbits hole and somebody insurted a blue pill down the rabbits HOLE therefor we captured in the dream world till the rabbit poops the blue pill and the it is estimated to happen on 2012 as soon as it poops this dream world pill, a red pill will be insurted down the rabbits hole and then we will all live hapy. trust me!

you gotta love the MATRIX.

 

In 2012

NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
The human world will continue.

And a new date will be set for 'a big event'

Gotta give it to you folks, u spin a good story.
But there is a thing call precedent...
After 1000 'the world will end on this date' stories.
It gets a bit silly...NO?

Occam

 

oh sure SOME things will chainge. just nothing a whole lot more dramaticaly then say in 2011 or 2013 or 1948 or 1963. i mean it IS a u.s. presidential election year, so either somebody else will get elected or election laws or defacto realities about them will. about as big a deal as happens every four years.

of course the body warming the chair in the oval office probably gets more credit AND more blame then it earns either of, whomever they might happen to be.

well the elections of 2000 and 2004 DID resault in the lossess of a large number of lives that might not have been had they gone differently.

those of 2008 and 2012 may resault in more or less. but NOT bloody likely the end of the human species as we know it.

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"Great Shift coincides with the ending of a 26,000 year cycle. This 26,000 year cycle, related to the precession of the equinoxes arising from the tilt in the Earth's axis of rotation, is recognized in the Mayan calendar and the Hindu Vedic tradition. It can also be derived from the I Ching, and roughly coincides with a 24,000 year astrologic cycle marking a shift to the Age of Aquarius. This is the third or fourth cycle in the human evolutionary drama on planet Earth, and is unique in coinciding with an alignment between the Earth, sun and the center of the Milky Way Galaxy."

We are going to move from the lover half of our galaxy to the upper half at the end of 2012. Maybe the Earth's electromagnetic field will shift and we really will be in the new age because we will all be fricasseed by the Sun.

 

Iron core

Really?

That will be interesting , seeing as we are at the far end of a spiral arm.
Where there is NO UPPER OR LOWER HALF.

Give us a break buddy. u think we have 2 digit IQ's?

Occam

 

i was with you until you started bringing in aquarius and drama.
also your assumed connection between a magnetic pole reversal and being "fricasseed by the Sun" is an unfounded and illogical conjecture. nor is it that predictable, nor is it any more likely to affect the average joe sixpack directly then the way dos used to store year dates proved to be when 2000 rolled arround. while gravity is a very weak force compared to magnatism except were massess the size of a planet are invoulved, it is not in any way affected by magnitism, nor are the atmospheric conditions that keep us from being "fricasseed by the Sun".

lower and upper halves of our galaxy? where did you get that one?
how do you define upper and lower? in relation to what?

our milkey way galaxy does revolve, and we, and our entire solar system WITH, rather then relative to, it.

the mayan/aztec calander was based upon aspects of the planet venus, which they did not recognize as such nor realize what it was, other then a bright light that appeared in the morning sky. and the interaction between its 226 day cycle and our 365 and a bit one.

observers in india and china very well may and probable did observe this same phenominon. none of which establishes any direct connection between it, and "the human evolutionary drama on planet Earth"

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What exists which does not have two halves? In relation to our polar north we are moving to the 'top' half of the milky way galaxy as a whole, not juts the tiny spiral arm we are in. Our electromagnetic field would deteriorate during the shift (it wont be an instantaneous perfect shift of course) and leave us without protection from cosmic energy flowing from the Sun. Therefore fricasseed by the Sun.

What does not make sense?

 

Ironcore

Please provide galactic mapping to show occam how you deduce we
are 'moving to the top half'.
A near flat disc has little to call top and bottom.

And any such shift 'perpendicular' to our rotational axis relative to the galactic core would produce no alteration in earths electromagnetic field.
Why would it?

Also...WHAT 'cosmic energy' flowing from the sun?
What indeed is 'cosmic energy?'

What does not make sense?
All of it.

Occam

 

I'm not going to try and change your mind but maybe take a look-see at this NOVA site:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/

cosmic rays, get it?

The pole reversal is just a theory and I don't know that it will reverse as we move through the horizontal axis of the galaxy.

A little more info on the horizontal axis and 2012, if you like:
http://saxakali.com/historymam7.htm



"The movement of of the Milky Way towards the December solstice sun between 6000BC and 2012"

 

Iron core

Ah...you mean charged particle or 'stripped nuclei' bombardment
You said COSMIC ENERGY. Please be more accurate with your language
and this would not be an issue

Occam is not interested in pole reversal. He simply jacked up when someone said
our solar system was going to move from the top half to the bottom half of the galaxy
Again..please be more accurate. If you are saying an event will occur if the solar system passes though the median central plain of this gallaxy then that may well happen but where is the evidence? Other planets in the solar system have magnetic fields.. will they flip too?
What about the sun...?

It all sounds a LOT like 'end of the world prophesy'
ie: attention seeking

Ps. Sol has an 86Degree angle on galactic center. it crosses from 'top to bottom' as u put it every 112 to 125 million years.
If pole reversal is dependant on that crossing. then you mayan callender
prediction is totally out of wack


Occam

 

I hope you are right, Occam.

 

Maybe the Mayans just got bored by that date, you know how it is with anything, creating a calendar, predicting the worlds destruction, actually getting round to vacuuming the floor - something always comes up that just seems more important such as finding the last pack of peanuts in the cupboard or sunning yourself in the back yard....

 

I think that in the year 2012 the universe won't be destroyed; because then what happens in the progessive rock song called 2112 by Rush won't happen!

 

This is all kind of a Zen ot Tao thing. Too many people live their lives in a cloud of self deception, worry, and misery (samsara). All of these 2012, Apocolypse, global warming...you name it things are just diversions from what is really there and all are created by your mind. Quit living in the cloud of your own delusion and just enjoy what is there...your all too brief life. For as long as you live the sun will shine, the rain will fail and daylight will follow the night. Be at peace with the knowledge that all that you have been given is in your heart and all the rest is just on loan for you to use while you are here. See what is in front of you and stop worrying about the things that are the creations of your own mind, the minds of others and the things that you cannot change.

when I am hungry I eat and when i am tired I rest.

 

I personally could give a fuck less what happens..I'll be sure to have shells for all my guns,cpl extra cases of beer,& a cpl cartons of marlboros..when nothing happens,I'll a big ass hog roast!!

 

dammit,I'm drunker than I thought..I meant I'll HAVE a big ass hog roast lol

 

IronCore

In 2013 you wont even remember occam.
And the human world will be rolling allong as usual.

Just as it has for 200 thousand years

 

right arm, farm out and just exactly totaly. and the guy that's gonna have the hog roast too. only without all his silly side arms. and me and occam.

maybe the four of us could get togather somewhere some time.
or in our minds anyway.

i like that new years arround the world they had in 2000. that was cool. before everybody got all distracted from what we've got when we aren't getting conned into wars and what have you.

of all the things i could name that are wrong there ain't a one of em arn't our own doing and not one of those we couldn't stop doing if we wanted to.

having something to eat and someplace to rest is good fortune.

what will happen is what we do when we do it. what won't happen is what we don't do when we don't do it. or someone or some many does or doesn't.

i'm not being very deep. just appreaciative of the mention of letting ourselves be gratified by what there is. especialy what is beyond our being able to mess up.

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