2012: Hottest Year On Record

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  1. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Nature is a lot more resilient than most think. It always recovers from environmental catastrophe. In some cases it may take a couple lifetimes. But it will always prevail. When the human race can no longer sustain itself. Nature will recover all over again.
     
  2. Reno91

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    time to adapt folks! i spent the hottest day i've experienced hiking in a corn field yesterday. wasn't too bad!
     
  3. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    We're not worried about nature, we're worried about ourselves.
     
  4. Tyrsonswood

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    Basically....
     
  5. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    And there's the whole problem in a nutshell.

    Feeling warm yet, folks? And summer's barely started.

    Over here on the left coast, we've been staying cool (the west coast IS cool!) thanks to the continuing melting of the polar ice cap which is as refreshing to us in California as ICE TEA on a hot day. Except we're not hot here at all! It's been barely hitting 80 degrees the past month, which is very far from "normal" as we should be in the 90s every day.

    So as long as the ice caps form in winter and melt in the summer, we will remain cool in the Northwest. However this western cooling is causing the reverse situation for the interior of the US and the East coast.

    But by mid July or so, the caps have already released their cold water which has run down the West Coast, and that's when our heat begins in earnest. Once the ice cap completely melts, which will happen earlier and earlier each year, the West Coast too will feel the heat.

    And this cycle will get worse and worse every year because all this extreme heat in the center of the continent is melting the permafrost in the north, which is causing the land to heat even faster, and methane to be released from the permafrost in ever increasing amounts.

    And we all know what methane does, right?
     
  6. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Wow! That's a lot of heat for the north pole. Up to 20 degrees warmer on average? Yup, the north pole ice cap is gonna be history soon. Watch out for the Russians! They think they own the north pole!
     
  7. Aesthete

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    If we were more worried about nature than ourselves, we might be better off scaling back civilization completely or just going extinct. Nature doesn't really need our concern, though. I mean, we can certainly create tremendous ecological disturbances, but those will come back to bite us because we rely on nature, and then in the longer run, nature will repair itself and return to equilibrium.
     
  8. walsh

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    Exactly. There's no "we" for me anyway - it's just a fiction. Me and a rainforest is as much "we" as me and the rest of humanity extending into the future, even more so - I am not going to experience these ecological disturbances far in the future so it's impossible for me to care.

    Which is why people talk constantly about global warming while themselves still being part of the cause. Anyone who complains about greenhouse gases and drives a car or uses electricity should be shot dead or at least put in prison.
     
  9. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Here's a great website that tracks Arctic sea ice on a daily basis.
    http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

    June saw the lowest recorded amount of sea ice ever. They say the rate of disappearance is now twice what is normal.

    All I can say is that it's keeping the west coast of the US cool and I believe the UK far wetter and colder than normal.
     
  10. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    they obviously weren't monitoring Earth over 4bya.. earth was molten rock.. much hotter than by today's standards :p
     
  11. Meliai

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    this is basically anyone who claims to be an "environmentalist" and complains about greenhouse gases, global warming, etc.

    I personally don't know anyone who truly walks the walk when it comes to the environment. I'm sure these people exist somewhere, but they're a rarity.

    Its not really the fault of the individual. We're all ensnared in the same system.
     
  12. hotwater

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    When I was a kid it was lead paint turning kids into zombies, then CFC’s destroying the ozone, then acid deposition (or acid rain) destroying the forests, and now global warming - [​IMG]

    hotwater
     
  13. skip

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    Here's some shocking facts for you. Some scientists are beginning to realize that their predictions for decades from now are already occurring!

     
  14. Tyrsonswood

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    "In the future you would expect larger, longer more intense heat waves and we've seen that in the last few summers"


    Ouch!
     
  15. heymister

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    I wonder if there will be record cold winters aswell
     
  16. The Imaginary Being

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    shame about the u.k... what a disaster this year has been.
     
  17. Tyrsonswood

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    Last winter it wasn't... Probably one of the warmest on record for this area taking the whole season into account. There were a few days that broke records for cold also, but as a whole it was very mild without much snow either (another record broken, lack of snow)

    Next winter? Who knows... Nothing is following normal patterns anymore.


    I believe the day I posted that "Ouch!" it was over 100 degrees out and it's not August yet which is typically our hottest month.
     
  18. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    It was the same here in the NE, I paid only $2,000 dollars for oil this past season which is the lowest amount I can ever remember. :2thumbsup:

    Hotwater
     
  19. skip

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    We had one of the mildest winters here in Norcal last year since I've been living in the area.

    When the report says there's 40,000 new high temps vs. 6,000 low temps last year, that does mean that winters are way warmer, setting new high temps, rather than low temps.
     
  20. kelleyandsusan

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    We are in a moderate La Nina cycle, with a positive Arctic Oscillation. This allows the sub tropical jet stream to be dominate in the eastern half of the US. In turn, this lets warm air come up from the Gulf of Mexico, and keeps the colder air blocked up in Canada. This also promotes ridging over the west coast, again keeping things warmer than normal. La Nina occurs about every 5-7 years, so no, the trend isn't permanent. There isn't any thing abnormal about it- it's part of the earth's natural cycles. It happened long before humans were ever a factor. The earth is a dynamic planet, not a static one. If it were static (not changing), then chances are neither you nor I would be here.
     

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