14 years old? How young is too young?

Yea , I also raised two sons , so I got the male side of the whole thing as well .
The old enough to breed , yep , old enough to become a mother.....but not mature enough to deal with it.
sex at 14 is a big risk no matter which side of the male/female coin youre on.

 

If we applied today's "morality" to the age of our grandparents, some of our parents, etc...most of our relatives would either be in prison, on the sex registry, or both.

I remember my grandpa talking about how it wasn't such a big deal for a girl to get married at 14, have 10 kids and raise a family. Of course, she wasn't as schooled in sex as kids are nowadays, but she did it.

Here's the dilemma I find: We have elongated juvenality by treating kids like little packages of fragile glass with no brain and no feelings OTHER than the feelings WE project FOR them to feel.

Our system is "protecting" them from, sometimes, THEIR OWN desires and wishes.

Now, before some fucking puritan runs off saying, "He's defending this and that..." GET A CLUE.

My point is that WE as a society have dumbed-down our kids, promoted Lolita-ism in the media, beefed up sex laws and cry "perversion!" at the very act that likely brought either US or our parents into the world.

So, go arrest Grandpappy or shut the fuck up.

 

no! no! No! NO!

I'm that Grandpappy!

 

Damn, you got some cool wheels to be a grandpappy!

 

I had sex at 16 and it was full of emotion in terms of the affect on me, so i totally agree. Although i am not against young teenagers having sex with each other completely, i see no reason why a full grown man needs to lust after a 14 year old girl. Attractive or not.

 

Xac, LUST isn't a crime (although we've all made it one).

Lust is natural. One can't control how they feel, but they can control how they ACT.

 

Then maybe he should control his mouth better? instead of telling his friend how he wanted to fuck their friends little sister?

Besides re-read my post your replied to, i think you misunderstood.

 

Maybe he SHOULD keep his feelings to himself? Is that what you are saying?

Maybe so. maybe so.

BUT, if these people's mere thoughts are censored, then what? Who's next because they say something that offends?

Acts and words are different although our society has become very knee-jerk about it.

What if someone has lust in their minds for other things or people? Should they shut up because you don't like it?

Please correct me if I am mistaking you.

 

First thing that is bothering me about this discussion is that we've been looking at it as though it's always an older man and a younger girl. It periodically makes the news that an attractive female school teacher gets busted for having a sexual relationship with one of her students. Let's stop being sexist here.

For ancient biological reasons women are probably not as attracted to younger boys as men are to younger girls. That young boy might be a fun lay, but he won't be a good provider. With modern birth control and the likelihood that the young boy won't complain, I imagine that it happens more often than we think.

It also seems to me that many otherwise thoughtful and intelligent women get overcome by an estrogen attack when it comes to gender issues. Your thinking in things this important deserves to be based in rationality and not in emotionality

No one who is in touch with reality has advocated that a "full grown man needs to lust after a 14 year old girl."

It appears to me that your narrow-mindedness, Xac, has pinched something in your head, and the resulting pain is making you cranky. Scruntching up in a fetal position and sucking your thumb might be soothing for you.



Have fun, play safely, and don’t play with fire!

 

I'd say he should especially when it comes to social circles, what good does it bring him? Does he expect to be accepted for lusting after a younger member of a circle with intention?

Censorship is one thing, taking responsibility for ones words is another. That is the foundation of demokratia

They should talk about it if they want. But when it comes to lust that has the potential to fuck with someones mind they should also be careful of their own intentions.

This boils down to a man wanting to fuck a young girl, he doesnt care about her, he wants to get his rocks off regardless of any harm that could be caused, where is the compassion?

 

Except aren't we talking about Sin and not some random scenario?

 

I can't speak for the others, but I sure as hell wasn't talking about sin.

When you use the word sin, I assume that you are using it in the Judeo-Christian-Muslim sense. If so, please point me to the scriptural references that support your position.

 

First off i gotta say i think oldtroll and libertine got this shit in the bag cuz i agree over and over. That being said i wonder if people realize that the urge to have sex is instinctive and is the reason all of us are here. If this wasnt built into our genetic code we would be extinct and age differences do no factor into that. As for what will a 14 year old get out of having sex? Guess what? there are a lot of 14 year olds that wanna fuck. We arent talking about rape here, rape is not ok, you dont need some dick head to tell you that and you certainly dont need the bible......I will agree agree that a 14 year old probably shouldnt be raising a child but this is the 21st century and with knowledge they dont have to. People really do need to think for themselves like oldtroll said, and stop accepting what people push on them.

 

No its because i find certain words difficult to remember the spelling, such as the name of the OP so i call him "Sin" for short.

 

Okay X, if that's all the effort that you can put into your post, I'll just let you talk to yourself.

 

Back when our ancestors were first learning how to form cooperative villages, the 14-15 year olds were in a much better position to be effective parents than the 20 year olds. The world then was a much simpler place than it is now and the life expectancy was about 30 years.

In this 21st century most 20 y.o. are not mature enough now educated enough to be good parents.

When I'm elected supreme leader, my making baby laws will be:
1. No baby will be conceived except within a permanent partnership of two people or either gender.
2. No baby will be conceived except where the stay-at-home nurturing parent is at least 25 years of age.
3. No baby will be conceived except where the bread-winning parent is at least 30 years of age.
4. Couples who create a baby in accordance with the above rules must remain a parenting partnership until the baby is at least 18 years old.
5. Violation of any of these rules will result in lifetime enslavement in the lowest of slave duties. Hoeing cotton will be a promotion.

 

Maybe one day, in the future, if i get my act together, you will be able to read one of my papers about many subjects regarding psychology and human interaction. Untill then if there is a subject you want to discuss with me you will have to learn to deal with my grammatical inconsistencies.

P.S.
Feel free to call me X if you like, or Zach.

 

Leaders die, empires crumble and at your age im not sure your empire would last very long

 

It is odd that I guess legally I am a man, I do not remember when I stopped being a child. I don't know if I cared about her, but I might off. She was sweet, her presence was comforting. Periodically she would fix my collar, and I remember her smiling when I was retelling my best beach stories. It not like I saw her as a sex object, like a toy. She was a women a person with a past composed of millions of moments who has perfected her art; which was cooking and was reasonable knowledgeable of it. We talked about the food industry (I few years of my childhood i grew up above a coffee shop my mother owned; I did menial tasks) Yes times during that night I wanted to take her home, to get away from her sister, but not to abuse he. I wanted to talk with her alone ask her about the things we don't share in front of others. I wanted to see the quiver the comes when running my finger so gentle across her stomach-I could go on but anymore is extraneous.

I am compassionate enough not to make a move, only because I did not want her to be regretful or spiteful. Also I am afraid that if I was alone with her I wouldn't be able to control myself, and do something regrettable. It is sometimes horrible being afraid of my own actions. Many times when I breakdown I ask myself why I feel so much anger and pain. And have to stop myself from accusing you happy people. I work so hard not to let it out of me. I haven't done something outright evil or destructive for more than 8 months. And that fire was very small, more a cry of help than an act of arson.

 

Sin, you need to ask yourself, if you are the right person for this girl and i think the answer is in your heart. Honestly if you love her, love her but you do not need to fuck her, if its love, wait. If its not you're just another guy trying to get his rocks off even if it may hurt some one else.

Rise above that, be her friend, not lover. Of course this is not an option, because as you've said you cannot control yourself if certain situations.

I think just stay away from her, it isnt going to lead to any good. Sort yourself out, extend your social circle, find peace with yourself and fall in love.

BUT! if you just want to fuck, find a woman your own age, they're just people and need sex to, and know how to deal with it.