10th 'planet' discovered on friday

brilliant u know. i can't decide which one is my favourite, they're all good, especially when you realise that some of them are nearly eighty years old when the going wasn't nearly as carefree as it is now and a woman's role was meant to be totally sycophantic. in many ways she's kinda like a female oscar wilde. there was a movie they made about the algoquin hotel, which is the place in new york where all the literati ate and drank - ppl like harold ross, james thurber, and others of the new yorker mag - but it was terribly disappointing i thought. the casting was all wrong. i can't recall now who played dorothy, maybe jennifer jason leigh (is that her name?) or some pretty chick like that. much too lightweight for dot. but like the lady says: you can lead a horticulture but u can't make her think.

 

mostly short stories and poems. one of my favourite books is the penguin dorothy parker which contains all her good stuff. great for a quick read to lift ur spirits.

 

I researched Dorothy Parker yesterday and came across a story about her review on Katherine Hepburn's dismal performance. She's was young and probably needed the money but regardless, Dorothy Parker actually said, "She ran the gamut of emotion from A to B,". Apparently she wasn't adverse to conflict but great woman usually aren't.


Oh and men should feel pressure, it's only fair. It's when they're not thinking about their performance at all is when I worry. Besides, women feel pressure all the time, that's why we have tv shows about women going insane and killing their husbands.

 

i agree. men and women should enjoy an equality of neuroses. that's q a famous quote the 'a to b' one but never knew she was talking about kh. i can imagine the shit fights those two'd have. i should do dorothy parker's chart one day. whattaya reckon meghean, i'm picking up gemini, lots of air and dysfunctional water: maybe an afflicted water sign moon (or something funny with neptune). perhaps venus in a male element with a dark aspect from pluto to the moon or sun.

 

That's creepy, that sounds a little like me! Lots of air and dysfuntional water, although my water moon sign isn't afflicted, funny neptune, male element venus but luckily no dark aspect with pluto... Maybe there is a resemblance... But unlike me, I definitely would believe Dorothy to have some Gemini influence, probably in either sun, moon or rising... Most definitely in one of those three and maybe a Sagittarius somewhere, probably lurking. You should do her chart, I'd be curious to find that out... Her birth information has to be somewhere, right? Everything's public nowadays. Weren't we talking about the 10th planet awhile ago?

Oh another random thought... Katherine Hepburn, for years, told people her birthday was in November but of course, later on she said that was actually her dead brother's birthday and hers was in May, making her a Taurus instead of a Scorpio. It makes me wonder whether she had a strong Scorpio in her chart anyway because of her adoration for her "polar opposite" brother and her intense devotion to him afterward. Her chart I'd love to see...

 

Incredible!!

 

funny. every few years i hear about a "10th planet" having "just" been discovered. i first heard about "planet x" when i was in 2nd grade. there are lots of things out there, why do we have to differentiate that much based on the size of the rock? what effect will this make on our lives? what could possibly live on a planet as barren as one must be thats farther away from the sun than pluto? what good does it do us to know its there?

i mean, its fascinating, but it doesn't count for much, except for complicating astrology.....anyone read the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy books? i think that point was made in the last one in a rather amusing way....

 

cant decide if yours is a genuine q or a wind-up, but i'll take it as genuine q b/c it's a good q. i guess a parallel can be drawn between outer space and ur mind, it's one i like 2 draw anyway. i mean consciousness is constantly expanding all the time, there are new things u discover and suddenly a whole world of knowledge and life opens up to u that didn't exist be4: u've expanded. space is similar i believe. the discovery of this new planet, and whether it's the 10th or not doesn't really matter (i take it u refer to sedna and quaoar), the point is that it's further away than pluto, which hitherto had been thouight of as the planet at the edge of our solar system, literally, and metaphysically, as representing the depths of the underworld of the human psyche: the 'low' in how low can u go, sort of thing. i don't know if u know the old myth of persephone and pluto but that kind of sums it up. now we know that a planet exists beyond this previous outer limit. what was the edge of consciousness is now on the hinterland of the mind. there's a new edge. this changes the collective psyche for the ppl on earth whose consciousness of their universe has expanded, or changed anyway. it's twice as big as pluto, so in a purely practical sense its discovery is significant. the discovery of a new planet, (and hell, why not 'planet'? in astrology pluto is considered a planet, so this one should be 2) is usually accompanied by a sea change in society. we can think about neptune's discovery heralding the age of human interest in the mind and sexuality. pluto came with the beginning of the atomic age. i expect that this one will also herald something important. it may be that we won't know what this change will be until much later, but, personally, there is no doubt that a big change is coming or is already underway. as previous posters have mentioned for some of us that means the start of the aquarian age. what shape this new age will take is speculative of course b/c no one mortal could ever be privy to that: but we do know that the age will be ruled by uranus and he symbolises all that is unexpected which will force through change: change at all costs is his credo. today i read that the russian tundras are melting at a most dramatic rate issuing toxic gases into the atmosphere much more potent than greenhouse gases. freak weather events occur now with more frequency. these things all bear the hallmark of a uranian coup. gaia, or the great god pan, whoever is ur archetype for mother earth, is revolting and hitting back at us and our dirty industrialising ways and mass consumer trash culture. there will be change. it's change or perish. or, as many pessimists think, it's change and perish, b/c we've left our run too late. either way this is how uranus likes it. i'm sure if our race survives the next century then they will look back at this discovery and call it the beginning of the aquarian age. that's why (imho) it's important. what they will think about us when they look back, is another question.

 

well, i did her chart actually after that and i was wrong on a couple of counts: she has a feminine moon but it's in an earth sign, not water, being capricorn in the 8th (that'd give her that famous sex drive: i have that too and it's tiring let me tell u). there's a lot of earth there actually, earth and air but decidedly lacking in fire and water. this gives her a left-brain dominated mind which probably explains her feminism to some degree. venus is in an air sign (libra) so it's also masculine. what else?.... um, there's a sun square pluto there, and pluto and neptune are conjunct in the first house in gemini (the ac is however in taurus). oh yes and of course 3 planets in gemini: pluto, neptune and jupiter all in the first house and so strong in placement (i think that was what i was registering: the conjunctions). that could explain the high drama and gossipy rows she used to have. what's more significant tho is the moon square saturn which is a very tight separating angle. i have this one 2 and it's a real bastard, pardon my french. a very tough one to learn from: often leads ppl in2 drugs and booze if separation anxiety is 2 unbearable (the other hard one is moon square pluto: i have both which amazes me sometimes that i'm still here). i'm not q sure about the effects of sun square pluto: i dont know this one very well but it may manifest as unconscious desires competing with conscious drives for energy. anyway, here are her detail s if u want to do a chart urself:
22 august 1893, 9:50 pm, monmouth, nj