soaring eagle negative?? say it aint so joe.. according to him im the negative one.. only positive uplifting peace and love vibes come from him.. just ask him he will tell you.. hes modest to.. pffft....
you do have a point there, but isnt it also bad news not to have the people there if u need them? but i guess i'm just used to ppl megadosing when theyre already in the best environment possible with the best ppl possible surroundingthem, so if things did go crazy there would be plenty of ppl to deal with it sorry i didnt respond before lsd isnt the most important thing in the world to me so i just wasnt paying attention...sorry just to me theres alot more important things goin on then someone dosing\ & once againi was not trying to be negative only prepared for any possibility..& with megadosing thats only smart ofcourse todays the day we'll find out if an extra person or 2 woulda madea difference right? & hhb what are u whinning about now?
i know it is a lot to read but this is all i have to say on this subject... for awhile! so you see my point but you dont see my point. believe it or not i understand where you are coming from. to answer your first question. i agree that it is a good idea to trip with friends around. i always trip with at least one person. one of the only times that i tripped alone was my "megadose". i can say with absolute certainty that my trip would have been much different had there been others there with me. my trip went places that only one person can go!!! i didnt feel the need to communicate what was happening which would have been incredibly difficult! i had a wonderful experience that could not have happened with anyone around. i am not saying that this is the only way to go but it is the only way to achieve a certain trip and should in no way be feared. a "megadose" with friends could be a wonderful experience as well. i can only imagine. so it is not BAD NEWS to trip alone even with very large doses. the problem is that it will be very difficult to find people who would respect you for taking so much. you do not want to trip around people who are waiting to by your psychologist. you want to trip around people who are going to enjoy and respect the experience with you. hopefully they will trip with you, perhaps on a lower dose. you were unable to help your friend or maybe you made matters worse. i would say that if you were a part of it and you didnt make it better then you must have made it worse. sorry to go on, but you just dont get it and that is unfortunate. you keep saying 'what if?' without realizing where this 'what if?' is coming from. well it is very easy to understand when you really stop to think about it. "what if something goes crazy" comes out of a fear of the unknown. i understand being prepared like making sure there is enough water to drink. i have never in my life had or ever needed a "trip sitter" personally i do not enjoy tripping around people who are not tripping. i love to trip with people and have on many occasions been thankful that i had someone to talk to. many times have i turned to a friend to help talk me out of something. i understand the point of having people around for the trip but would strongly recommend that they be tripping also. people who are not tripping have a very difficult time understanding what is happening and tend to pull the tripper down and make things uncomfortable for them. of course you are still high but there is a very noticeable difference tripping around sober people compared to other trippers. soaringeagle - LSD is not the most important thing in my life either but i deffinitly see a benefit to spending time posting here. there are so many people confused and i feel people benefit from reading my posts. there is something very wrong with your perspective and i would be happy to be of some help to you. i am frustrated that you will not listen enough to understand. you have been wrong for some time now and i understand why you are so stubborn. pride is a difficult thing for some people. have you ever witnessed someone magadosing alone? of course not that would be impossible. have you ever magadosed alone? i guess maybe you have heard about it. my point is that you dont know for sure if the reason your friend had such a difficult experience was because there were "3-5" people confusing the fuck out of him!!!
Just cause somebody has a sitter doesn't mean the sitter is confusing the fuck out of them...you make it sound like the sitter's ask every 10 seconds if you're feeling ok and constantly checks on you or something, which isn't the case with most trip sitters. When I've been with sober people while I was having an intense trip they would just tell me that they're gonna keep an eye out for me and they're there if I need anything, what the hell is so terrible about that? If somebody trying to comfort and help you makes you have a shitty trip then you have issues.
Yeah, my "sitters" always end up dosing But on my brother's acid trip he "Bought" some sitters. Gave two of his friends a large discount on some pot and said all they had to do was chill in the basement and he would be upstairs. They checked up occasionally(usually just glancing in the door), and one could leave to go get pizza or whatever while the other tended house. From what I heard they had a halo marathon and were happy as clams.
Dude hes right though,...you wouldnt just be calm listening to music. Your not really calm per se on 3 hits let alone 100
ok guys update,gonna do the best i can as i was pretty messed up last nigt... i watched the guy take the 100 hits last night and wen he dropped them me and my other friend who were trippin went and snorted a hit of 2cb each. within about 10 mins we were both off our heads scratchin away at our noses, THE PAIN OF SNORTING 2CB IS FUCKIN BRUTAL. but by the time i got back inside where the guy on the 100 was you could already see the hits starting to take effect about 15 mins after he started to suck on the thick cube of blotters he had folded up in his mouth. he didnt seem to be tripping unusually hard till about an hour in when he lost pretty must the ability to talk and anything coming out of his mouth was just a whole bunch of different topics stuck together to make one sentence which didnt make sense at all. i managed to hear him mutter something about the awe of ocean and the roar of the waves and how he was surrounded by the feelings of the elements?? lol at times he would just lay down and mutter that hed damaged his mind then hed be up 5 mins later screamin at stuff and doin weird things like just moving chairs around from place to place for no reason. he vomited about 6 or 7 times just last night alone and would get the shakes in his hands to the point where he couldnt hold a drink. he still seemed to be enjoying himself tho. about 2 hours into the 2cb me and the other guy went a had to decent lines of ketamine which is wen things got really weird for me and i was talkin like i was really wired. about 6 hours after dosing the 100 hits still muttering babble you could barely understand he picked up a set of darts and motioned to me to play a game with him. he threw the darts and pretty much just hit anything, could not see a thing he throw in the wrong direction even sometimes entirly, he got tired of that quickly and went to lay down on my bed and pulled the blanket over his head. i was in the backyard tripping off my face at this time so im not sure what he experienced but the sober person watchin us all said he was under the blanket perfectly still without a sound for about an half hour till he got up and vomited violently about 6 feet outta my bedroom. he seemed to handle it well but i could tell deep down he was panickin at point and sometimes even had forgotten he taken the 100 hits, his memory was not there at all so i would just reassure him that hed dosed himself prety hard and was gonna be gone for the next few days and too enjoy it coz thats wat he payed for. he left about 6 this morning with the sober sitter to move on to the next sitters place while me and the other guy on the 2cb got some sleep. i should be seeing him tonight so ill update on how he is after day 2. PEACE!
Doesn't seem like fun at all, a dose like that. I mean if you're so far out of it how can you even know you're enjoying it? I hope for him it'll be a bit better once he's past the peak of the experience. People regained sanity after rediculous doses in the past, so hopefully this guy will too (only how sane is it in the first place to take 100 hits?) Well I'll await the next post about how this went.. (and for myself I'll keep to 100-300 ug doses; thats enough for me (although preferably 200-300 ug)
the only times i have ever had problems with the shakes were when i was around people who were not tripping on L with me. thats one of the big reasons i like to trip with other trippers (on the same thing) or alone... i think it must have something to do with the energy exchange that naturally goes on when people are close to each other. i was reading on some government site about LSD and 'tremors' is listed as one of the effects. i remember thinking, what shakes i dont get the shakes! but then i remembered when i used to trip when others were in the house who were not tripping and how much i whould shake like crazy. of course the government assumes that LSD causes the shakes every time because every time they observed it happened - but the thing is that it only happened because they were there observing. the puking is a bad sign for sure. he was not at all ready for this trip. if he puked once before everything got much better that could be a good sign but puking over and over like that - he is desperately trying to cling to his ego or normal reality, he was unable to let go. with that size of a dose he will be permanently effected and by the sounds of it not in a good way. the only way that one could possibly undo such damage would be to take the same amount again but next time make sure your set and setting are better. unfortunately most people who really mess with who they are in a bad way on LSD would never consider using LSD again. lets hope he is somehow able to find some light and find his way to a good place. he should have split the 100 lot into 4 and you all could have tripped together for one very long trip or many smaller ones. not that psyhco_delic will care as he will probably say something about how wrong it is that i think i know things. it sure is funny what experience can do for someones ability to know things. why didnt you guys trip with him??? poor guys trip was doomed from the start, hope he makes it out ok!
yeah the set and setting would have been probubly way better if he tore some strips off for you guys before munching the sheet, your 2CB and special K put you guys into a totaly different mind set thats unrelatable to the acid tripper. I agree with 3XI that guy must of been jolted over his limits and forgotten to accept his ego melting from him, poor dude, I've been stuck in that loop, where ya took to much and you're in over your head and you forgot you just licked up a puddle and you feel that ego escaping and you think you may be going crazy and all that, you get so zonked you forget what you took or even that you took anything and you think you woke up crazy or somthing and start freakin out, then idiots who dont know better try and tell ya like 7 or 8 hours and you'll be fine man, but in 7 to 8 hours you're still pretty far up there with no hope of coming down for a while, pretty knarly. The I think I'm going insane, or am I stuck like this bad trip deal seems to be hella common. The duration of big trips can be kinda nuts but the visuals are off the wall, saw my wall melting so I swished my fingers in it and then scooped up a puddle of liquid wall into my hand and let it drip horizontaly through my fingers back into the wall which rippled like raindrops on a puddle. for every day tripping i preffer the mushroom.
this one time, i went to the beach - purchased a scrumptious vanilla ice cream with chocolate sprinkles and one of those flakes stuck in it from the Mr Whippy, and i ate it all. All i tell you, all. After, though - to my horror, this super cool dude came up to me and he's like "nahh mannn if your going to have an icecream you've gotta have it with peanuts and caramelised onion, its like the only way to role. Your an immature little fiend to think you know otherwise and you should stfu cause i know what im talking about. You should get out of your mind infested with denial, rage and confusion - cause your like 18, you know nothing. I've eaten 100 times more ice creams than you EVER have. I have superior experience and through a level of conviction contextualized by my superior logic, i have superior knowledge." i was like, dude - go choke on a dick and stop staring at my balls. Many years later, that same man entered the digital realm and started tormenting those same stupid ignorant young psychedelic punks about the truths of LSD.
This makes sense to me. Fighting the type of 'I know what's up because I've been around the block and if you disagree you're just too unexperienced' logic got me banned from a much more pretentious website than this one. Acid truths are evolving. Young punks are feeling different things from it , or the same things through different goggles. 3xi, drink a beer. Eat your icecream how you like, try new things, but if you don' t like them, tell people to fuck off. it's fun. Peace and love, ƒr[ƒ‹‚ÍŠy‚µ‚¢
The puking is what saved this dude. He probably vomited up 80% of the drug, maybe more. The vomiting is the minds central nervous system response to the oncoming overdose. I saw large dosages of all kinds of super heavy acid doses produce the same reponse back in the sixtes and early seventies, thank God the doser later realized.