Socialism is like life in a pandemic

Discussion in 'Socialism' started by 6-eyed shaman, Mar 17, 2020.

  1. Asmodean

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    Hm, not sure that pic shows. Anyway, surely you have heard of the lamb of God (Agnus Dei)!
     
  3. Gul Dukat

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    Dona nobis pacem.
     
  4. Asmodean

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    The Lord is my shepherd :-D
     
  5. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    still waiting.
     
  6. 6-eyed shaman

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    Apparently you, Fapme15, and the rest seem to think rights are a gift. Based on all your weak counter arguments, so it’s not a straw man.

    The new government laidd out by Jefferson and the founders was a rebellion from a monarchist government that shat on the human rights of the colonists.

    The constitution is a list of rules for the government not to infringe on the rights of the citizens. The constitution is not a gift
     
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    Says the bandwagon fanboy from the sidelines who’s not contributing with any argument if his own.
     
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  8. Gul Dukat

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    Nope. I've explained pretty succinctly I think no such thing. You understand you haven't actually addressed my arguments, right? You’ll want to get around to that before denouncing them as weaker, otherwise you're just full of it.

    From what I can tell you are committed to hiding behind what appears to be a deliberate misrepresentation.

    In order to form a government that did not. Yes. We have been over this.

    Agreed. It is not a gift. It is the law of the government. Not separate from it.
     
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  9. Vladimir Illich

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  10. everything bagel

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    I seem to recall the right canceling Nike and the NFL. Oh and Star Wars. And Ghostbusters

    And Captain Marvel

    Guess it's really only an issue when you cancell something or someone over silly mundane things like racism and sexual harassment
     
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    I’ll be the “senior member” to come in and rescue you

    Under Obama the IRS targeted opposition non-profit with conservative leanings. This is an example of weaponized taxation through government force and corruption.
     
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  12. 6-eyed shaman

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    Those things still exist don’t they? None of these examples were censored, blacklisted, and deplatformed from search engine results, and major high-traffic websites. I suppose ghostbusters and captain marvel didn’t profit as much as they could have, since being forcing a political bias alienates a good portion of potential fans.

    Real victims of cancel culture have their voices silenced, their YouTube channels and podcasts closed down, their restaurants and businesses shut down by threats of violence, and actual actions of violence.
     
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  13. Vladimir Illich

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    [QUOTE="Beach Ball Lady Balls, post: 8729888, member: 297250"]if rights are given to you, A gift, how can you be free? If it is a gift, then it can easily be taken away. This has been seen in history, by people like Hitler. If someone says free speech is your right, but then says, but you can’t say this, or you must speak like that, then you don’t have free speech. Communication and being Curbed.

    Free speech is not a gift, it is a natural thing that a government can not dictate on. Socialists want to curb that, it starts out small, little things, cutting off people natural voice, natural expression of thought. Remove their right to defend themselves in order to have more power, take away the power we each possess, everyone. It isn’t reserved for a collective thought or one way of thinking only, This is what hitler did. This is what Pierre Trudeau did and this is what Obama has brought about,

    Socialists like to shut up when it Doesn’t serves them, just ignore and not address it, sweep it under the rug As if it doesn’t exist. -looks up-

    Pierre Trudeau took away out right to free speech in Canada, when he tossed out our constitution. Freedom of speech no longer exists here, We use to have free speech, but not anymore. That is what socialism does.[/QUOTE]


    here we go again, yet another load of old bullshit !!!

    'Rights' were never granted easily, they had to be fought for over long and bitter battles time and time again. Womens sufferance is a classic case in point, so too is each and every 'right' workers have fought for and won over the past 200 years.

     
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    I haven't heard anything about a business being shut down over threats of violence so I'll take your word for that one. As far as the rest goes you know who pulls down You Tube channels? You Tube. Because it's their platform and they can do what they want with it. Same with Google and the rest of it. They dont want to be associated with hate and insane conspiracy theories. Alex Jones can start his own video hosting platform because goddamnit this is America.

    Only the weak can be silenced.

    On to Ghostbusters... there was a planned sequel that was canceled and now instead of that we're getting the original cast of men back after 30 plus years. I heard it's gonna be called Ghostbusters 3: Grumpy Old Men. So that was absolutely cancelled.
     
  15. Gul Dukat

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    Haha is that meant to be a good thing?? Or are you making a little mini point here?
     
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    Exactly, our right to free speech is a right and when a government takes that away there is a fight! No one, especially a government doesn’t have the right to dictate what you can and can not stand up for or say! No matter how much you agree or disagree with the speaker. No matter how much socialists disagree, they can not change this law in the USA. If you allow it to happen just once, then it is a loss for all and that dictate will grow. The government will tell you what you can and can’t say. They will tell you that you don’t have the right to defend yourself, they will tell you freedom of religion is not a right, etc...and the list goes on.

    so if you are trying to insinuate that socialists are the ones fighting this, you are sorely mistaken and lacking in an understanding. Are you trying to label abolitionists as Democrats here?

    seems to me you attempt to rewrite history,, even fabricate your own history. That is what socialism does. Simply not cool with me,
     
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    Not even a mini point. Just saying that if your video is taken down and you throw your hands up and go "oh well I'm silnced" prolly weren't all that strong in your convictions to begin with
     
  18. Gul Dukat

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    Ohhh ok I get you. Thanks for clarifying.
     
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    I'm fabricating nothing. My own Grandmother was a suffragette alongside Sylvia Pankhurst !!! My Father was a Trade Unionist and shop steward in the factory he worked in. Many times did he lead his co-workers on strike in defending the workers rights for decent pay and/or conditions. I too joined my respective Trade Union, became Branch Secretary, shop steward, health & safety steward. As well as representing my Trade Union members I was also a co-founder of a neighbourhood law centre and represented many clients at courts and tribunal hearings.
     
  20. Gul Dukat

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    Damn... That's awesome. Major respect to you.
     

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