Your religion

I think you are well-informed. I think you're intentionally and knowingly leaving out parts you'd rather gloss over. Such as God Himself undergoing agonizing torture and death to make up for the sins of undeserving mortals, you included.

 

Quote: Such as God Himself undergoing agonizing torture and death to make up for the sins of undeserving mortals, you included.

I thought the son of god did that

 

Um, woow, you totally did a great job pointing that out! I never actually thought about that before, well I'm convinced. I'm now converted to a full-blown athiest. Thanks!



Oh, btw, he doesn't "send you to hell". He tries to keep you away from hell, Satan tries to send you to hell. Maybe actually try to understand the religion before judging it, hm?

 

moon_flower,

"If you really loved your god, you would obey them all. Like you people say 'all things are possible with God.'....am I right?"

-Jesus said that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. All things are possible with God, but because of the human element no one except Christ has ever lived a sinless life. And that is the reason He had to die for us. We will someday have a life free of sin, and yes it is possible and will be in God's appointed time not yours.

"This is supposed to make what point? I never claimed I didn't deny God."

"Excuse me, I've read the bible. Cover to cover. It's sad that so many 'Christians' know less about it than I do. You can't even give an educated response to the post, you have to ramble on and on with things that have been said."

Titus 1:16 is about people who claim that they are Christians but through their lifestyle they deny Jesus. Maybe those Christians that know less than you are one of these Christians-only Jesus knows.

I was replying to seamonster66's post, who said the law was manmade.

 

"I thought the son of god did that"

Maybe you really don't know anything about Christianity. There is only one God, but God exists in three different persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Christ is just as much God as the Father.

 

Exactly, Hammer!

 

i'll never understand why perfectly rational people are so offended by people believing in christ's words. now, if someone in particular is getting in your face and being an ass, deal with them. but why would anyone waste their time and energy actively seeking out a place to attack the beliefs of a group of people who wish only to follow the example set by christ and live in love and charity with their neighbors? disagree if you like, i don't mind. tell missionaries who knock on your door to get the hell off your property if you like. but it's just rude and somewhat childish to actively seek to attack someone. it's not like i'm going to buddhist shrines and wiccan meetings to ridicule them.

 

Perhaps its partly that at some level, they do really believe, or want to believe, but they've got the idea its not cool. It is a form of attention seeking perhaps.

 

i don't sense any particular desire to believe, just anger. anger's fine. just don't go looking to attack someone who hasn't done anything.

 

mynameiskc,

"just don't go looking to attack someone who hasn't done anything."

-Everyone dead and living has sinned. The only way to get rid of or wash away these sins are to accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior. Jesus said go out into the world and preach unto every creature. Christians are not trying to attack someone because they are not good. They are out there to try to lead them down a better path.




THE SAVED CHRISTIAN lives under grace with absolute assurance of their reconciliation to God because of their faith in Jesus Christ and His free gift of eternal life.

THE LOST person is lost to God because they have not accepted Gods answer for covering their sin nature. The lost represent a broad range, from the rebellious who seek their own way of dealing with reality in lieu of any religious standard or base, to seekers who sense a terrible void and are looking for some better way to fill their nagging sense of separation from their Creator.

THE DECEIVED person believes they have found the truth and is usually blindly committed to the belief system they have chosen. Websters Dictionary says to deceive is to make (a person) believe what is not true; delude; mislead, to err.

 

Because it's fun....?


And, Billy, I definitely do not believe, nor do I wish to believe.

 

How do I feel about your lack of understanding and compassion? Sad. I will say this as a true Christain. There are a lot of things in The Bible that confuse me when reading them. Through prayer and worship these confusing things are cleared up. I pray to God through Jesus. I thank Him for the food He provides me. I thank Him when He allows me fellowship with my friends and family. I thank Him for the gifts in my life, such as my wife and my son, or my parents that adopted me. I thank Him when I see the miracles He has performed in my life. I thank Him when I have the opertunity to spread His word. Like now:

I thankyou Lord for allowing me the abillity to post on these forums and glorify your name. I thank you Lord for carrying me through rough times. I pray Lord for these idividuals that seek only to destroy your name. Bless them Lord and allow the Holy Spirit to fill their lives so that they may enjoy the gift of life you offer. I love you Lord. In Jesus name I pray, Amen.

 

moon_flower,

"And, Billy, I definitely do not believe, nor do I wish to believe."

-Just like the majority of the world. They refuse to listen and they close their ears. How can you even begin to find truth when you won't even look for it. And if you have search for the truth, specifically the Bible, what is your analysis?

 

I find it really sad to read moonflowers posts too, i think she needs to hear that she is a child of God and Jesus loves her no matter what. Those words where whispered in my ear 3 years ago,when i was caught up in the ways of this world and was on a path of self destruction;those words changed my life and brought me back to God.

 

brothers and sisters~

if we stop looking at God through the eyes of the world and start looking at him through the eyes of our own hearts, we will begin to see How diverse His nature is. He is what He is. He is the I AM.
Most of the world has hated God for centuries and has not embraced Him or His gospel. Those who do are part of a small flock, because it is harder to be a follower of Christ than not to be. It's harder to swim against the current and admit that we are broken people, in need of a saviour. It's a real challenge (and an adventure of a lifetime)to accept a belief that goes against our selfish and sinful natures.
i dare you to read the Bible again, meditate on it don't rush through it.
blessings

 

I have read the bible, I attended church until I was 15 years old. I found the whole thing ridiculous. My analysis of the bible? Have I not made it clear? I think it's a work of fiction. Check out 'anyone can write a book'.

delphinium, you are the kind of person that makes me HATE this religion. I don't need anyone to tell me I am a child of god. You pushing the religion on someone will NOT help the situation.

 

it's not exactly an original or very productive hobby. have you considered needlework? self-mutilation? painting with your own blood? it would seem to be more in line with all this rage emating from you. but instead, as a good christian, i should probably quit joking and ask you to take up crochet or something.

 

A hobby doesn't have to be original. Look at needlework.
A hobby doesn't have to be productive. Look at stamp collecting.

Self-mutilation isn't fun anymore, I outgrew it.
Painting with my own blood, it's been done. Not a big painting, just a few words/pictures on a piece of small paper.

I don't have rage. Since when is opinion rage?

 

youve definatley got some issues there little girl. if you feel im pushing my beliefs on you; thats a matter of perception i guess. I would just like to say that its people like you who make me more grateful and feel even more blessed to have my faith in God.

 

I have never sinned. I will NOT live my life by the ethics of some delusional men that lived in poverty and torture. You know, people are all like "Christ went through agonizing torture for you!"
Bullshit, I didn't ask him too. Also, if he knew he was going to live in Heaven with God, dying on the cross SURE as hell isn't that bad!
In my humble opinion, Lucifer, the Light Bearer, has made more of a sacrefice. He saw what God was doing and he said "Nay! Lord I will not let you make these SHEEP follow you to doom like some kind of sadistic shepard!"
That is why 'Satan' temtpted man. He set them FREE!

Shit, thank HIM!