Your religion

This is really startin to piss me off. Stop fightin, you poor bastards!

 

Go away if you don't like it.

 

Wow this is quite the exciting little discussion ... Anyway...I'll just respond to the original post.

I feel like laughing cause I think that's funny. Seriously. Not bein' a smart ass or anything.

That's not how I see my beliefs though. I'm a non-denominational Christian. I have, in the past, been Southern Baptist, agnostic, buddhist, satanic, and atheist. In that order. Heh, yeah I had a little trouble finding myself for a while.

Anyway...I believe God is neither man nor woman, and does not live in the sky. The God I believe in is a part of everything and everyone. The bible is flawed because it was written by man, inspired by God, and so I take things in the bible with a grain of salt. There are good things to live by in there though. The 10 commandments are just the basic wrongs that nearly everyone in the world knows from almost the beginning anyway. Hell, as I interpret it, isn't a place of literal fire and brimstone, and is different for everyone. But basically it is simply the absence of God. I don't think we'll go to hell if we disobey those "rules", at least not as long as we try our best to be a good person. If we do that, even if we do wrong, we will know it, feel remorse, try not to do it again, all that good stuff. If we do it and don't feel remorse, there's a problem :/. Oh, I'm also bisexual, do not feel I am wrong in that, and know that God still loves me because God has no problem with love no matter who it develops between. That is the greatest commandment afterall. I never try to push my beliefs on anyone. I share, I discuss, I listen. And only when it comes up. Sooo! Call me a bad Christian, call me a fundie freak, or don't call me anything at all cause you're of the live-and-let-live variety....whatever . I know in my heart what I believe is true and right for me and that's what matters anyway.

 

I'M NOT FILLED WITH ANGER AND RAGE YOU FUCKING PSYCHO.



hahhaahaha I think you're looking just a tad more like a psycho than i am, and btw does anyone else here find that I've been trying to push my religion on moonflower? Honey, maybe you feel like i've been pushy because deep inside you feel a need to hold your hands over your heart before something penetrates.

and there's no need to be calling eachother names is there? like, 'fucktard' is not really using your imagination much.
oh yah I'm talking to a 17 year old who cannot control her little forked tongue, oops
Are you that rude in front of people's faces or does the ability to hide behind your monitor give you a freedom that boosts your ego?

I wish you all the best and i'm sure we would get along alot better in person.

let your heart be filled with peace.

 

That has tons to do with it.

Yes, I act like this in person. You don't have to have an ego to say fucktard.

I'm sure we wouldn't.

 

please answer these questions for all of us, and it would be nice if you could put a little thought into it instead of talking out of your ass.

how do expect to get anywhere in life with such a mouthy attitude?
why do you ask questions and then slam the people who are trying to answer you?
why do you feel the overwhelming need to be completely rude to people?
are you a hippy or not? i mean, do you practise peace and love at all?
what did you expect when you started this thread?
what do you wish Christians would do?
what do you think Jesus wants Christians to do?
are your parents still together?
Do you feel like you've been 'jipped' in life?
who are you?
who inspires you and why?
Is the Christian religion the only one you hate?
have you read part of the Bible recently?
were you abused as a child?
Do you feel like you've ever truly been loved?

 

Ahh, remember what it was like when we were seventeen and thought we knew everything? Don't worry, she'll learn on her own. If she doesn't, well, not many people in the world would be so kind if you were to swear at them to their face. Not everyone in the world is a Christian who will turn their cheek. If you were to cuss at someone for no reason, a majority of people would probably return the insult with a fist to the face.

 

Guys.....stop the 17 yr old bashing.......
makes me sad to think that people are that age orientated that young people are put down, we have an opinon too....and whether i'm for or against moonflower or somewhere in between...she is entitled to express herself. epiphany...not a personal attack at all...you know i respect you and your posts very much.
roly.xxx

 

I'm not necessarily bashing her age, I'm just stating that when we're younger, we tend to assume that we know alot about the world. Especially when our elders tell us we don't. Then, as we age, we realize that they were right and we don't know all that we think we did. I agree that everyone does have the right to express their opinions, however, this topic seems to have been reduced to childish name calling and cussing. You cannot really take someone seriously when they end a sentence with, "fucktard".

No worries Roly, I respect your opinions and posts as well.

 

I've realized that just simply praying for moon_flower is going to do a whole lot more good than engaging in a conversation such as this one with her. As it has been pointed out many times, there is no real talking to someone like her unless you just enjoy the button-pushing game. It's good for entertainment value, and that's about it anymore.

 

I talk out of my mouth, not my ass.

how do expect to get anywhere in life with such a mouthy attitude? Because I don't care to say what I'm feeling. Pushovers get nowhere real quick.
why do you ask questions and then slam the people who are trying to answer you? Because I can. If you don't like what I write, put me on ignore.
why do you feel the overwhelming need to be completely rude to people? I don't like what they say. I'm going to be rude if I don't like what you say.
are you a hippy or not? i mean, do you practise peace and love at all? I don't label myself. But, by definition, I'm the farthest thing from a hippie. You don't have to be a hippie to express peace or love.
what did you expect when you started this thread? I expected just what I got. Christians getting pissed off that someone thinks differently than they do. "I'll pray for you, you ignorant 17 year old sarcastic brat!"
what do you wish Christians would do? Practice what you preach.
what do you think Jesus wants Christians to do? I don't believe Jesus exists, therefore, I cannot answer this question.
are your parents still together? They've been divorced for 11 years.
Do you feel like you've been 'jipped' in life? No. I enjoy what I have.
who are you? I am me.
who inspires you and why? Phil. He doesn't care that people talk about his being gay. He is proud of what he's acomplished. And, he's a hell of an artist.
Is the Christian religion the only one you hate? There may be one or two more.
have you read part of the Bible recently? Finished Revelations for a second time about a month ago.
were you abused as a child? Everyone is abused at one point in their life. No reason to dwell on it.
Do you feel like you've ever truly been loved? Indeed I have been loved.

Does that satisfy your need, ma'am? Or was that my ass talking again?

 

My religion would be atheist - I don't believe in any gods.

 

thanks for answering my questions.

so you're saying you don't like to share what you're feeling. Has all this been for nothing then? cause it really would be best if you WOULD share what you're feeling , to benefit from this conversation, and to come to some kind of conclusion.

You say pushovers get nowhere real quick. Are you implying that you are a pushover? I hope you don't feel as though I have pushed you over, i would like to pursue this as long as you will let me.

You say you slam people just because you can. But really, what kind of reasoning is that? Don't you want to have a certain level of quality in your debates, whether you agree or not? There have been alot of people here that don't like Christians/Christianity/God...whatever, but it's better to agree to disagree than get nasty and throw insults around. That suggest immaturity, which is probably why your age keeps coming up.

How are we not practising what we preach here? We preach the forgiveness of God through the death of Christ. We preach kindness, goodness, patience, peace, love, joy, faithfulness and self control. I think we've managed to stay on top of those things so far. And if I havn't, i apologize.

i know that just because you're 17 doesn't mean you're stupid or anything. 17 is just about adulthood and every 17 year old could probably teach thier elders a thing or 2 about life. But a bit more maturity on your part in serious discussions like this will be better for you and everyone else involved.

really, i am not trying to make you mad, i havn't from the beginning.
In the long run i am just trying to help answer your questions.
peace~

 

Where did I say that? Has what been for nothing? Your quiz? Yes. Your quiz did nothing to move this thread along. I have shared what I'm feeling.

No. I didn't say I was a pushover. I said I don't care to speak my mind. Pushovers get nowhere real quick. Where in that sentence does it imply I am a pushover?

It's my reasoning. You asked, I told you. There was quality here, then the insults began. I insulted back. No, it's not better to agree to disagree, there would be no debate.
My age keeps coming up because it's the only thing these people can throw into the mix that would make me seem ignorant. Immaturity was when the age was brought in as a factor to prove a point.

'Love your enemy.' 'Treat others as you want to be treated.'
Do those not ring a bell? Bashing someone who doesn't believe the same as you most certainly goes against both of those.
If those are the things you preach, you definitely need more practice. You have not managed to stay ontop of those things so far.

It probably will not. If I were to re-make this thread later down the road, I'd get the same bitchy responses.

Then stop with those quizzes.

 

Quote from Epiphany or some shit: Ahh, remember what it was like when we were seventeen and thought we knew everything



Here to help moon....you are 23 and believe you do know everything because you are an arrogant christian who assumes that you know the truth and no one else does.

Christians are so sure about everything that they will pray behind your back that you change, how arrogant is that?

 

this is just getting more and more confusing.
first you answer my original question by saying you don't care to share what you're feeling, and now you're saying you've shared what you're feeling.
And then you say pushovers get nowhere real quick. Who are you talking about then? Why did you say that?
putting those 2 statements back to back looks like you're talking about yourself. We weren't talking about someone else, were we?
If you didn't like my quiz then why did you answer the questions?
Am i not treating you as I would like to be treated? Am i not showing you love? what kind of love are you talking about? Would letting someone talk badly about my religious beliefs without saying anything at all be the kind of love you would like? Did you want to be all alone in this thread? It is called "Your Religion", you weren't talking to unbelievers, you were talking to people like me. And your views of Christianity are lacking in education, the kind of God you described is your own interpretation of Him, but it's not Him.
We are trying to tell you more about our beliefs because you were mistaken and uninformed.
Look at the title of your thread and think again about who's bashing who.
i know my one thread was a little heated but i still think i have been kind overall, and quite patient with you. Christians are not perfect people, and should not claim to be. IT's harder to be a Christian than not. We're swimming against the flow. I am working on my relationship with God, because I realize my need to do so.
k no more quizzes , and thanks for not swearing at me.
btw, tell me more about your friend Phil. Is he on Hip Forums too?
and you look gorgeous in your pics.

 

Just thought I'd try to clear something up a little here....

Moon_flower didn't mean that quite how it reads. There, it does look like she's saying that she doesn't WANT to say what she's feeing. But, she's saying she doesn't care (what anyone thinks about her, I'm assuming), she WILL say what she's feeling. She's saying she's not a pushover and that she speaks her mind.

Just a little misunderstanding.

Hopefully that'll clear things up a bit for both of you a little bit, in case y'all felt like delving into that a little longer.

 

See post below.

It was simple.

You meaning the majority of the Christian population.

So, you're telling me I didn't hit the main points? You should re-read the original post. I bet it sounds a lot like your religion, just a bit more sarcastic.

I don't think my thread is bashing. I think it's my opinion.
You're right, they shouldn't claim to be, but most do.

Phil is 18, moving to Chicago in January. His boyfriend is Bruce. And, no he isn't on the forums.
And, thank you.

 

(Eccl 1:2 NIV) "Meaningless! Meaningless!" says the Teacher. "Utterly meaningless! Everything is meaningless."

hehe

I havent read everything stated here in this thread,
but I do know from experience and have being a member of several forums for the past 7 years or so That this kind of conversation never goes anywhere. Never. I have yet to see it.

The person that is right in the arguement will waste there time trying to justify things and the person that is wrong even though they know it will keep throwing comments back. its endless. In the end all parties will look stupid wasting there breath talking nonsense. its like talking to someone thats deaf, they just will not listen. believe me science has proven that. hah


Seahorse remember this scripture:
Mathew 14 :
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet

Moon_Flower: Since your misunderstanding the christian faith, you can only understand if you actually believe. if you dont believe you wont understand, its written as well.
Proverbs 2:1-9
if you receive my words and treasure up my commandments with you, making your ear attentive to wisdom and inclining your heart to understanding; yes, if you cry out for insight and raise your voice for understanding, if you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures; then you will understand the fear of the LORD and find the knowledge of God. For the LORD gives wisdom; from his mouth come knowledge and understanding; he stores up sound wisdom for the upright; he is a shield to those who walk in integrity, guarding the paths of justice and preserving the way of his saints. Then you will understand righteousness and justice and equity,

 

thanks cookiezgurl, that does make alot more sense, and thanks Danimal i liked your opinion and the scriptures you provided. Moonflower, no hard feelings.