Your opinion differs from the consensus.

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Bilby, May 8, 2020.

  1. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    What films and TV shows do you consider to be over-rated or under-rated?

    I will start with A clockwork Orange. Halliwell's Film Guide says it is a film that numerous left wing intellectuals find acres of deep meaning. I was not so impressed.

    Heaven's Gate was a box office flop. It has its flaws and Michael Cimino was a corrupt man,all the same I consider it to be a work of art.

    Conversely I think his previous film The Deer Hunter was a bit over rated.
     
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  2. guerillabedlam

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    Donnie Darko

    I didn't think it was awful but it didn't do much for me. I guess it didn't do well in theaters and was mostly panned by critics at the time, so I suppose depending on who were talking about in terms of consensus, the selection might not apply. But I had a bunch of friends who raved about that movie and I've seen it generally held in high regard online.
     
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  3. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Family Guy - I liked it back in 2000-2003, but after that the writing became very lazy and predictable

    Weeds

    The Internship - Nothing but a 2-hour long commercial to apply for a job at Google

    Anything directed by Michael Bay
     
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  4. 6-eyed shaman

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    I felt the same way the first time I saw Donnie Darko. Had to watch it a 2nd time before I could fully understand and really appreciate it.
     
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  5. Pete's Draggin'

    Pete's Draggin' Visitor

    Definitely underrated
    84 Charlie Mopic
    March~1989

    Accompanied by an Army cameraman (Byron Thames) shooting a training documentary, six soldiers are dropped by helicopter into jungle terrain at the height of the Vietnam War. The men begin a dangerous five-day mission, lead by (superior character role) black sergeant OD (Richard Brooks). As the unit ventures further into the forest, they are interviewed about their experiences in life and in combat.

    The movie totally captures how people can go from first meeting one another and go to giving your life to that same person(s).

    Very low budget movie, but the very highest quality in the story and it's 6 important characters.

    Full movie
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  6. Pete's Draggin'

    Pete's Draggin' Visitor

    Underrated
    Miracle Mile
    May~1989

    Musician Harry Washello (Anthony Edwards) sits down at a Los Angeles diner, where he instantly takes an interest in waitress Julie Peters (Mare Winningham). The feeling is mutual, too, so the pair arranges a date for later that day. But things go awry when Harry picks up a random pay phone call from a frantic soldier who warns of a nuclear attack that will hit L.A. within the hour. Scrambling, Harry finds Julie and the two do everything they can to escape to safety.

    This movie goes from romance to heart pounding anxiety.

     
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  7. guerillabedlam

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    I enjoy that song as well!

    Were they a one hit wonder or do they have other quality songs?
     
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  8. guerillabedlam

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    Thanks, they pretty much only play that one song on US radio stations.
     
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  9. Adamskiffle

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    I really like Glory daze which was cancelled after one season.

    I never got the appeal of Napolean Dynamite or Love Actually or Notting Hill.
     
  10. Adamskiffle

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    Oh & Borat! What a load of bollocks!
     
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  11. I'minmyunderwear

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    man, i thought i was the only person who noticed this. nobody actually watched the show when it was good, then it came back shitty and became hugely popular for some reason.
     
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  12. guerillabedlam

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    I hear ya, but a convoluted plot isn't reason enough to make me care to revisit a movie if I didn't enjoy many aspects of it the first time.
     
  13. 6-eyed shaman

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    The TV show Friends was way overrated. I can’t believe how many people are streaming it a decade after it stopped airing new episodes.

    The men on that show were girly as hell. It would’ve been more believable if it were a show about six chicks.
     
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  14. soulcompromise

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    wait...


    when did it stop airing new material? (I can google this)

    Anyway, I thought it went off the air around 2000 or something. Lmao! :laughing:
     
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    Of course it does...
     
  16. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I found each of these movies overrated.

    Iron man

    Dunkirk

    Apocalypto

    Training Day

    Avatar

    Drive
     
  17. I'minmyunderwear

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    i sort of agree here. i don't care about the men, the presence of the marlboro man as a main character is not something i find important when rating a show. and i somewhat enjoyed friends when it was new. but it really hasn't aged well at all; i tried watching a couple episodes a couple years ago and just couldn't make myself do it.
     
  18. Vladimir Illich

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    Try watching the John Mills original - much better !!!
     
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  19. wilsjane

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    I opened Heavens Gate in London and it is a very long story. The film was booked for a 6 month run in the west end and closed after 3 weeks of almost empty performances, one that had 4 people in the theater.

    The problems started with the production, when Cimino delivered a film that was three and a half hours long. He did not want an intermission and went to the huge cost of blowing the prints up to 70'mm purely for the sound during the skating sequence. It was unbelievable, but pointless, since less than 5% of cinemas had the equipment to run it
    The cinema chains refused to book the film, due to only having 2 performances per day, leaving them with no way of selling the confectionery which is the cinema's profit. (the box office goes to the film distributor and production company)

    Finally the film was cut to 100 minutes and needless to say, it became a disjointed meaningless pile of rubbish. During the press screening, the critics slated it, which destroyed the business before it even opened and on the premier, people were walking out.

    The main criticism was with the interaction between the hero and his girl. The first reel of the film that introduced the characters was cut from 10 minutes to less than 2 and this was the major downfall. Had it been left intact, people would have realized that they were brother and sister and the film would have made a lot more sense. Many people who saw the film were waiting for physical interaction between them and could not understand why it was not happening.
    The publicity program was awful, people did not even realize that the title was simply the name of the skating rink.

    The irony of the whole thing was that 2 years later the original was screened at the NFT (National Film Theater) and was acclaimed as a masterpiece.
    Too little, too late. In a nutshell, a complete cock up.

    PS, what was the running time of the version that you watched. Even on the re.release the original was edited. Then again when it did not fit onto the maximum 3 hours of a video.
     
  20. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    My DVD runs for 208 minutes. In the days of analogue TV what would run for 100 minutes in th cinema would run for 96 minutes as film runs at 24 frames a second and TV runs on 25 frames a second. I am not sure if this is the case with digital TV.
    It would seem to me that with the exception Midnight Cowboy, American don't like gritty realism films about America. A foreign film that is gritty realism, then it is art.
     

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