young mom's

You're still not arguing the same issue as i am.

I'm not talking about the right to vote or work or anything.

this is about PARENTAL RIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITIES.

This is about how feminism has fazed out the NEED for a father.

Im concerned about how THAT has an impact on us.

 

well, ya know, this is a touchy issue. As a women, maybe Im biased, BUT....My opinion is that because it is the womens body, yes she has the ultimate decision because she will do the carrying and the delivery. I think if it was reversed, if men carried babies (funny to think about...hehe) than I would say that while both parties should be involved in the decision making, that it would be the man's ultimate decision. Cause its his body and frankly, I cant force him to do anything with it he doesnt want to. Thats my opinion on that.

 

I don't think feminism has phased out the NEED for a father, only the IDEA that a father is needed.

Kids still need a father.

And no one here is saying that bump-an-jump daddies aren't lame. I think we all agree they are. We're just giving eplanations or the increased numbers of bump-an-jump daddies.

 

Exactly my point!

 

So whats up Shane, did you have your kid yet or not asshole?!

 

08-14-04 @8:23pmEST

8lbs 1oz

19 in

full head of hair and beautiful smile and eyes!

i have a couple of threads going about it!

 

oooohhhhhh....congrats my friend!

 

thank you very much.

 

Glad everything worked out Shane!

 

THANX ALOT SEAMONSTER!

 

BACK TO THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION!

 

You know, I've skimmed through a good 50% of this thread and most if it I find to be completely foolish.

There are mothers and fathers that are both young and old when they have children.

There are mothers and fathers both good and bad.

Anyone who puts that much emphasis on societies role in parenting trends lacks personal responsibility.

At the end of the day, the only thing a parent can truly control is how much individual responsibility and love they give towards their child. Should I become a parent someday, I hope that I am wise enough and lucky enough to be with someone who is equally commited to our childs development. This is the ideal situation, yet I would never have a child unless I honestly believed that I was fully capable of raising him or her own my own.

 

There you go Ryan. If you need any quality about yourself this one screams it. I hope you find that special someone to share your life with. I personally think you are a treasure.

 

Can I get an AMEN!!!

 

pay attention

I'm asking you to explain to me how men's negative reaction is the fault of women.

They percieved it as a lack of need and shrugged their shoulders .....how is that the fault of the movement?


*taps fingers on desk*

I'm waiting......

 

Do you have a sister?

 

First of all, congratulations on your little bundle of joy.

You have nothing to be ashamed of, and it's not your type of man that anyone is talking about. It's the kind that blow off responsibility. There are little lives at stake here.

More men should be like you, and it seems like you understand how crucial your role in your child's life is...

If you can act as a decent respectful father, shouldn't it be expected of the rest of the fathers out there? You stepped up to your responsibilities in spite of the reasons that you give for fathers' non-participation in general. I think that all men should be expected to make that sacrifice that you made, rather than trying to justify their lack of involvement. That's my bottom line, because I can't criticize men for feeling the way they do. But I can say that it has an adverse affect on the stability and emotional health of children... I feel there's never a reason to throw a child's life balance in jeapordy. Good luck and many blessings to you and your family.

 

I have no idea why any of this would have an affect on how you go about being a parent Shane. I personally don't feel part of a 'good' nor 'bad' gender. All that really matters is that your son praises you - having some after school special praising fathers shouldn't influence anything in your life.

 

i've already addressed this in the thread, but i'll say it again:

when mother's teach their sons through actions and words that the need of a father is no longer valued and that the role of a father is obsolete they raise a generation of men who are indifferent to it's neccesity in their childs life.

That is how feminism has impacted parenting.

Can you give me anything positive that has occured in parenting as a result of feminism? Where are the positive results if any?

 

Blaming feminism on dead beat dads is a pretty pathetic arguement Shane, it truly is.