YouCallYourselvesAnarchists?

Discussion in 'Protest' started by telshaug, Dec 1, 2006.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    You are proposing one currency. Currently the value of the dollar is down.
     
  2. baloon

    baloon Member

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    well.. what you want my dear is truly communist in history, but not socialist in theory
     
  3. Haid

    Haid Member

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    I personally don't think corporations or capitalism is evil. I agree capitalism has many advantages. A lot here would disagree. I am just saying that you don't see many here pushing for no government at all. There are some but most don't agree with them. You are also right that anarchism wouldn't work because order creates itself from disorder. However the problem with one world government is the same all around the world. Every government wants to be the one. Utopian world government is just a myth. Its not your ideas that are that bad, but why come on here name calling and acting like a fool. If you support world government start a thread and debate it. If you support capitalism start a thread and debate it. If you can't make posts without calling everyone idiots nobody will listen or think you are enlightened. So at least be respectful and put your ideas out there.
     
  4. weedheadmatty

    weedheadmatty Member

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    what have the romans ever done for us? oh yeah, the aquaduct, public sanitation, roads, law and order, meticulous records keeping and bloodshed.
     
  5. green_revolution

    green_revolution Member

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    And all this started over the background?

    Anarchism does not mean disorder, or order arising from disorder, nor does it explicitly mean no government at all.
    Trust me on this one, the common definition you find in most dictionaries is false.

    Anarchism means replacing large scale states with local councils and federations and where the people decide on issues instead of representatives (direct democracy). It means building a system from the bottom up. If you think that all that would result in chaos, then you can say that anarchism = disorder, but that's your opinion, not the meaning of the word.

    www.anarchistfaq.org is the best place to find info on the subject. I don't know if this is really relevant to the thread, but it really bothers me when people associate anarchism with disorder.
     
  6. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    You say all this but really I do not believe you have a clue what real anarchy looks like. In Leiden For example there is a large commune, that practices what it preaches but its by no means ideal and yet far from disorder. In London there are serious networks of anarchists that are not infiltrated by police or security services that do not recognise either government or communes above the belief that individuals will act together in resposible society, and against infringement of the many against the few. In germany communes and associations of anarchists push their theories and live in accordance with them but you just verbally masturbate. you seem to get your ideas from TV and books. Why not preach a few of your own ideas? If you have any, andd live according to them? If you are an anarchist go live amongst like minded people and if you are not an anarchist go live amongst them to find out what they really want !
    But dont go to london theyll laugh at you with such ideas
     
  7. sun_heart_girl

    sun_heart_girl Member

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    Sounds a bit Bolshevik... Anyways, who said anarchy was a good thing? Also, without aggressiveness and ruthlessness nobody would be doomed, we would be living in peace. It's the aggressiveness and ruthlessness of some people, i.e. the government, who have landed us in this situation in the first place.
     
  8. Haid

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    What happens is some "councils" will feel one way some another. Then they will start working together to push their ideas. Then other councils will get nervous and band together for protection and before you know it a new central government will form. This can be seen clearly in the history of countries like china. They revolt overthrow the government go into tribes. Eventually someone joins together enough people to gain control and start another government. It has happened like 6 times in their history. When people band together they become stronger and safer. You can't stop it.
     
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