Oh, I got "goofed" on my first LSD journey on about 550-600ugs in 1976. Scared the shit out of me but changed my life and the reality I perceive irrevocably, certainly and without any mercy. Ranks as one of the most important and significant experiences of my life. It is a shame that the doses sold today are so fucking weak. Dealers go about saying it's X amount of mics and people believe it because they have no other "ruler" to measure against. Just the fact that you pr0ne can eat twenty hits attests to the fact of how weak doses are today. I doubt you could handle twenty hits of the same hits I had my first time. (I don't mean that as a challenge or bragging, just an observation about doses) I had three and was propelled into the void and when I returned everything was new and different for the remainder of my life. Unless someone has been hurtled into the void they have no concept at all of what a person who has is talking about. That is a fact that a lot of "psychonauts" that haven't "crossed over" just don't get. It's not an indictment against any of them, it just is. Kind of like an orgasm, if you ain't experienced one there is no explanation that can convey the experience. I agree, often the answer is INCREASE DOSAGE!
Yeah it sucks that one has to eat twenty hits to achieve the thatness. I only need ten with most of the paper these days though, and thats talking exclusivly. I wouldnt even bother with "street" doses, just because of the chance that its not what they say it is, and Im broke as a joke and dont want to waste my money on bunk or ass quality blotter. But shit, I probably wouldnt need a ten strip with the acid back in your day, but I sure as hell would eat that much back then. Cant be too much of a good thing in the right situation. I have alot of respect for old heads like you PB. I try to mingle with old heads the most at events, they got that wisdom, and they always have the best shit.
All you need to do is remind yourself that LSD is completely non-toxic, in fact it is less toxic than vitamin-C. Then, when you're lying curled up in a ball on the floor listening to your favorite Pink Floyd song, and you become gradually less aware of the others in the room around you, you may feel a sense of paranoia or anxiety in your stomach. For me, upon reminding myself of the rule above, it turned rather into a strong sense of excitement, that whatever was about to happen I would return as I was completely fine (physically at least). To realize one's place in the universe, that you are nothing but the smallest pinpoint of energy in an infinite matrix of tiny points of energy, that this energy is flowing through you, through all of you, through everything, that there is no 'you,' no 'I'... to feel the infinite circle of life, that life is nothing but energy, a mighty and infinite energy that flows through every person and animal and rock, an energy that holds the very planets together in alignment, that we, our planet, our universe is merely a minute building block of something too vast, too magnificent for any brain to comprehend, that the energy of this universe and all universes is flowing together as one, an energy so vast and mighty and terrible and yet so pure, the thought that no matter what happens this energy cannot be extinguished, that we depend on this energy to fuel our lives just as it depends on us to contribute our little pinpoints of energy... no energy is ever lost, and no energy is gained, it is only shared, with each other and with the Infinite. And that's what happened to me after only 4 hits...
Everytime I dose high, in about ten minutes I start to trip out, and feel like Im on a couple hits. And then something unique happens that only high doses seem to do. I get all goofy. Me and my friends call it "goof" or "goofed", its when you dose high, and are like thirty minutes away from the peak. The "goof" will build and evolve until your completely peaked out. Its when your body feels all, well goofy. You lose control of facial muscles, usually one eye will be wide open and the other will be half closed or rolled in the back of your head. Your whole body feels like wavy gravy jello, you cant really talk, and this state is accompanied by extreme euphoria. And then, you sit down, turn the music on, and watch the rainbow display of cosmic everything pouring in, out, and through your being. The room? What room? My face? What face? SunshineChilds sig looks alot like the OEVs on these doses.
Those who are afraid of egodeath are overthinking it way too much. Nothing physical dies, just the mind is dropped, all the thoughts stop, your sense of you is dropped, the ego. You become just an awareness, and it is a great experience because everything that causes suffering, everything that you impose on life that takes away from its beauty is dropped. You suddenly feel a direct connection with you and everything else, all the filters will be taken away, you will experience life in its total purity.
LOL, Yeah I bet you would eat ten! It was purple microdot about 170-200ugs a hit, ten of those would definitly put you on the other side for a while and require a sitter for sure. When I did it I had no idea what to really expect and was totally taken by surprise. Thanks for the respect, I wish I could find some decent acid, but I wonder about what it really is as well. Back in the old days there wasn't the RC's around, or at least they were pretty unknown so when we got acid it was LSD for sure. Only one time did I get something that in retrospect may have been a DOX type substance. Big greasy spots on graph paper that took a while to come-up, very vivid colors and horrific "spinal shivers", not pleasant. Another time I got something called "T", it was PCP and LSD in crumbly purple tabs. Snorted two at a yes concert, I remember snorting them, smoking a joint and next thing I knew I was back home at a friends house. But I did have a good time, just don't remember much of it.
what about your body? do you feel it? do you know it's there? do you just forget where you are? and I guess me last question is can you walk at this point or are you probably physically sprawled on couch and 'mentally' somewhere else. I've gotten some CEVs that look like that (sure many have), but open? Nah...I will always at least see the room I'm in, be able to make out what's around me, etc. (Though one time, actually saw a car drive by, and it carried with him a mirrage of pink, purple, green, pretty ass energy colors and such that filled up the high trees and such as it passed by). For a few seconds. Cool stuff. Maybe one day If I can find legit stuff, i'll dose like 666ug or 777ug or something like that. How many ugs you recommend (to pb and prone)?
For the rest of your life for the rest of your life the rest of your life your life your life your life ... ------- Agree with most of what's said by most people above, except I'm not so sure about "must" do this or that. Who knows, you may learn more with future trips.
The room and you will no longer exist, they will be a distant memory, 1,000 years ago and a million miles away Although, if you were seeing as intricate patterns as the above, I would say you arn't too far from the initial 'slip', maybe some good music to help put your body in that 'auto-pilot' state and allow that final moment where you 'let go' and go with it, the ultimate submission.
Just do a ten hit trip, at least over a 1,000 mic. Then there is no question at all of ego death, it is certain! Its like oh boy it coming, its coming, oh shiit, what is this, oh shit, boooooooom, its just one big cosmic orgasmic spectacular super show from there.
INthydreams, do you think this can be achieved with mushrooms as well? I have eaten up to an eighth of mushies before but I feel like they fail to impress in the same way. Did your appreciation for mushrooms increase or increase after trying acid?
well, i'm more interested in LSA than LSD because it comes from plants... i have experience with lucid dreams, and in one i met who i perceived to be the female anthropomorphic version of fern/vine-like plants, who was sitting near plants that lifted me up into a seat that they formed. i have a friend who met 'lady datura' in a couple dreams after taking an oneirogenic dose, in this case about five seeds. so instead of reaching this plant intelligence by taking a large dose in waking life, just a few seeds were enough to experience that connection to it. he also took a relatively low dose of nutmeg before sleep (a couple teaspoons) and had very intense nutmeg-induced lucid dreams. i also read about the achuar people of ecuador and how they have 'vision dreams' from taking hallucinogenic plants before sleep. i did acid in a dream once (not that night in waking life) and experienced similar, but exaggerated effects. sadly, this doesn't seem to be discussed very much at all. it's such a safe way to use psychedelics and you are completely uninhibited by physical reality. but obviously not everyone is skilled at dreaming or cares enough to learn.
Me and mushrooms have a very special bond. They are a closer friend than acid is to me. Every time I am looking for other psychedelics mushrooms just show up. Mushrooms can be just as spectacular as acid. They can bring you to the same place, just slightly different ways of getting there. Shrooms to me seem more ancient, more natural, more mysterious. Both are good, Id experiment with both. To get a really spectacular trip, your gonna need about 5 grams of mushies. After you understand where you going and how to get there, you can get there of 2 grams of mushies. Now what is really spectacular is both at the same time! It is fucking amazing incredible awesomeness!!! Its like the best qualitys from both substances come out. The clear outer space visuals of acid, mixed with the deep thought, mystic trance of mushrooms. Plus its a 12 to 14 hour trip!
Mushrooms ARE great and my appreciation for them DID increase after using acid. As did my appreciation for weed. I may have to go with InThyDreams on this one that mushrooms are a closer friend to me than acid at least at this point and time. I've taken acid in my dream before. It was cool. I was unexpectedly offered acid then next night. Trippy. lol.
Can anyone explain the difference between the two other than what is so often spouted 'mushrooms feel earthly', is there actually a difference?
Its hard when they effect everyone differently too... You just have to try them both yourself to figure it out