you know how i know that time machines haven't been invented?

Bollocks!

Mad Scientist = school nerd.

That is the exact reason he manipulates time. To punch you in the face.

 

Not possible, if someone went back into the past to kill said person, you wouldn't know the person had been around to disappear.

However, if someone came to this time and kidnapped the person, then you could explain disappearances like that.

 

We have a time machine called the human brain. The past is not extant as a remotely tangible event but is represented only by the living tissue of the brain.
Linear time is a mental construct, real time is always current. The past as well as the future are artifacts of the present.

 

So if I go outside today and measure a tree, and in ten years, measure it again, the difference is just something my mind made up?

 

No you would be witnessing a current condition. Time and space emerge concurrently with us.

 

No, if I went out and measured it today, and it was 24 inches across, THAT is a current condition. If I compare it to what it was 10 years ago (12 inches) that is an indication of passing time.

 

Yah, that makes more sense.

 

You are not comparing it to what it was 10 years ago. You are comparing it to the physical growth of the pathways in your mind. You cannot physically reproduce a past event.

 

What does not being able to physically reproduce a past event have to do with anything that is being discussed?

What is this physical growth in the pathways of my mind you are talking about?

And yes, I am comparing it to what it was 10 years ago...

See here's the problem with your form of argument. You are trying to discuss what you imagine may be true, as opposed to the truth that is in front of you.

And before you try to make up something to carry this on further.

SHOW YOUR PROOF.

My proof is I can go out and measure the tree each and everyday and show that as time passes, the tree grows. I can even take pictures of me doing this, and compare the pictures as well.

 

tom get in your time machine and go punch him before he replies to this thread.

 

when I get the desire to punch someone, it isn't going to be by using a time machine...

 

It's relevant to the issue of time travel.

We physically grow synaptic connections in the brain to account for and organize experience.

My proof is the same as yours. You are taking these measurements by virtue of a map in your brain. I am not suggesting that we do not witness a genuine dynamic but if you want to travel through time it is helpful to understand that you cannot travel into the past like some distant location but you do have access to 3 plus billion years of current evolutionary information. It appears as though the present emerges from the accumulations of the past but the past exists by virtue of present emergence. The past does not become so until it emerges from the present.

 

You know...

I specifically said, show your proof, to stop a pointless answer such as you gave...

You offer no PROOF. You only offer more theory. Theory, is NOT proof.

 

Neither of you have any proof.

You are both forgetting me know absolutely nothing of the truth of the situation. Time is not as simple as Tom see's it, and Dope cannot PROVE his claims.

However it is widely believed time travel exists for sure, due to black holes and the idea of curving time paths in the universes fabric. Our brains cannot contemplate the idea of this, and this is probably evolutions fault, we are just not far enough gone as of yet.

Silly arguing something so vast.

 

I won't believe in something until I see it.

 

Where did I give my view on how simple time was?

 

Which is exactly why I say my proof is the same as his. I observe what is in front of me the same way anyone else does. Our historical time lines are in constant flux. Origins keep being pushed farther back just as future probabilities are increased. Time is malleable.

 

Show me one single REAL example of time moving in any other direction then forward.

Having said that, that in no way implies anything of wether or not time may be manipulated in the future, or even in the past. It has nothing to do with how time may or may not act in a black hole, or in the absence of humans.

And then explain how it is that showing that time moves forward (ie watching ANY living thing grow) isnt proof that time moves forward.

 

I don't think we have the information required to argue what you guys are trying to.... We see time go forward at a constant rate, and have no REASON to think anything else, but thats really all that can be said... There's not enough information to fight over

That said, if I personally ever have the chance to travel in time, I'll be waiting around the corner for the people who suckerpunched and robbed me in my dorm, with a VERY large club, to halt their giggling getaway.

 

I don't know what people think they are arguing here, but US SEEING TIME GO FORWARD is my argument. What more information do you need as proof of time moving forward?