You don't have to be gay or bi to enjoy sucking a cock

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  1. topper

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    It could happen in a MMF, spur of the moment thing that turned the woman on, or the situation came up and you didn't want the experience to pass you by.:rolleyes: This may sound stupid to some, I have no desires for other guys, but it happened and it was a cool experience:cool:. I would do it again if the situation arose, but I wouldn't go hunting for it. Straight guys can enjoy the experience without the alternative Lifestyle. Have you tried?:D
     
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  2. KDaddy23

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    I've always held as true that you don't have to be gay or bi to suck a dick: You just gotta want to. Also true: You never know when you might find yourself doing it so never say never!
     
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  3. Constantine666

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    I've had urges on and off, to suck dick, for decades now. They come and go, and have only now begun to get much much stronger.
     
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  4. topper

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    Its just about being Sexual and TCB, whatever the situation. Like the hawkers on the Boardwalk say " dont pass it by, give it a try". You dont have to be anything, except being able to enjoy the situation and go with the flow.
    I have had the most wild times, totally unexpected in the beginning and ending in a Sexual Encounter of your lifetime
     
  5. Constantine666

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    Not sure that was the best analogy. Coming from the city with one of the most famous Boardwalks in the country, I gotta say, so many of those "Hawkers" are professional scam artists and can't be trusted. They are there looking for mark, stupid enough to, as you say, "Give it a try." Here's a tip, anyone you see winning a shell game or a 3 card Monty, is a plant to get you interested in the game. Then you lay down money and keep losing.
     
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  6. LowHangers

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    While in my teens and twenties I did think it was gay to suck another guy's dick and never once even thought about doing so. Then in my mid-thirties I began having thoughts about sucking a guy's dick, while watching porn I masturbate thinking it's my dick being sucked as well as myself sucking that dick. Then one day I accepted a blowjob from a guy, returned for many from the same guy before actually sucking his. I wasn't sold on the idea of doing so, but couldn't seem to stop wanting to suck dick, the more I sucked, the more I wanted. I've never considered myself gay, nor the guy's I was sucking as we were married to woman but had a fetish for sucking dick.
     
  7. topper

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    I worked a stand in Seaside Heights many many years ago and know what a set up these games are, but the philosophy of not passing up a good oportunity was embedded into me. It led to a lot of fun that wouldn't have happened if I didn't Go For It.
     
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  8. Constantine666

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    Oh, I'm sure, and it will always depend on what it is you will be or seem to be passing up. Living in the places I did, and learning the hard way in a lot of things as I was growing up, I've become jaded in many things in my recent years.
    Any gambling on the outcome of things concerning my personal or financial security are no longer things I am willing to take chances with. For me the adages of never passing up a good thing, have become triggers for "If it seems too good to be true, it is." and "There's one born every minute." I used to be ashamed of the times I'd been had or taken in by a scam. Now they are just those scars old men show to their kids and say, "See this? This is what happens when ..."
     
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    Don'tcha hate glitches...
     
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    I have discussed sexuality with a psychologist friend and she described it as continuum. And I have to say that has been my own journey. Society gives us parameters, many times those don’t fit reality or our own reality shifts. Our desires change and so does our outlook.
    So it’s not out of the norm for a “straight” guy to wonder what it’s like to have a cock in his mouth and at some point act on it. I personally don’t have a need to label people, circumstances and people change over time.
     
  11. SantaCruzRob

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    My first time happened during an MMF. My girlfriend set it up after we'd had a few FFM experiences that really rocked my world.

    When she suggested an MMF, I I was more than unsure and uncomfortable but I was afraid of losing her. I found out later that she and the guy had met to discuss what she wanted out of the experience, which was specifically seeing how far I might go.

    After satisfying her we began stroking each other which led to oral to completion. My mind was spinning and that was the beginning. I'm still not a fan of labels or defining oneself that way, but to each there own.:p
     
  12. LowHangers

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    I've never been a fan of personality labels, all garbage and toxic conversation. Do what you enjoy doing, I certainly have no issues with what you do as long as it's not illegal and don't expect you to have issues with what I enjoy doing. I've been spotted sucking a guy's cock in a bar parking lot a couple times as he was leaning against his truck bed as I was making his night to hear people say, "Look at the fag sucking cock over there". OK, you think I'm a "FAG" but that is just your opinion. Honestly, I am a cocksucker, not a "FAG" so just go about your day and allow me to finished pleasuring this man.
     
  13. FriendlyCock

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    I don't like categories one bit but society seems to insist we fit into neat little boxes. For me I was so frustrated and depressed, I broke through my long held aversion to actually getting into cock play, and had all my frustrations sucked right out the head of my cock by an older expert at they game. I hesiantly sucked a 5 inch one then hungrily kept it up. It was what I needed and the wife was OK with it, seeing the change in my mood, and I went back regularly, until he died, rest his old cock sucking soul.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    I’ve never felt the need for a label or acceptance for that matter whether it’s being married to my wife or having sex with a guy. What others do is their business as what I do is my business as long as it’s all above board and legal.
    It took me a long time to understand it’s ok to have fantasies about sex with a guy and even having sex with a guy and that doesn’t make me gay. Society says if you’ve touched another man’s penis you’re gay. I actually enjoy the fantasy of sex with a guy probably more than actually having sex with a guy and I don’t care what anyone thinks about it as far as labels.
     
  16. KDaddy23

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    Society is wrong... as usual.
     
  17. TomofGa

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    If I knew what I know now, I'd be one of those guys who love females, female bodies, but would definitely suck cock with any of the girls had they asked. No one ever did, until I met my wife and what a wonder it is. Oh wait, I am one of those guys. Think about it, I can do everything she imagines and never do anything else with a guy, except for sucking a cock with her, taking cum, and so forth. You need a guy in the picture to be able to do everything possible. Guess that means you need a least a MMF threesome to be a complete package - lol. My wife says the norm should in the very least be 2-3 husbands to every 1 wife.
     
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    You don’t have to be gay or bi to enjoy sucking a cock

    Correct!

    Héctor Carrillo and Amanda Hoffman write in Straight with a pinch of bi”: The construction of heterosexuality as an elastic category among adult US men:

    I think I’m straight. From time to time I might get the urge to have sex with a guy, but I’m not attracted to them. (Blaise, age 39, white)

    I would say [I’m] straight. I love women. But when they are not available I get head from guys. (Freddie, age 25, Latino/white)

    I’m straight but a pervert. A bi guy is just attracted to either or. (Charlie, age 38, white)

    In these passages, Blaise, Freddie, and Charlie succinctly explained why they self-identify as straight men in spite of the fact that they engage in sex with men. Within a strict classificatory system that divides people into three groups according to their sexual orientation – heterosexuals, bisexuals, and homosexuals – these men would be classified as bisexual based on their sexual behaviours with women and men. Men such as these ones, however, often find that the label bisexual does not adequately represent them – that being straight is crucial for their sense of who they are as individuals and as men. In this article, we examine the logics that allow adult US men such as Blaise, Freddie, and Charlie to make sense of their same-sex desires and behaviours and make them consistent with a straight sexual orientation. We argue that in the process of interpreting their sexualities, these men change the definition of heterosexuality, in effect turning it into a considerably elastic category.

    Our analysis is based on in-depth interviews conducted with 100 men who self-identified as straight, but who were recruited while they were pursuing sexual encounters with men online. Our data show that, contrary to many beliefs and stereotypes about such men, many of them have engaged in considerable reflection about their sexualities and sexual lives, and their reflections have led them to conclude that their self-identification as straight is warranted. In particular, we focus on these men’s interpretations of their sexual self-identification and sexual attractions, the meanings that they assign to their same-sex behaviours, their sense that same-sex behaviours provide them a respite from the everyday pressures of being a man, and the perception that their same-sex behaviours relate to specific sexual fantasies and a desire for experiencing sexual transgression. […]

    Essig elaborated: ‘It is a rejection of bisexuality since the inevitable question that comes up in bisexuality is one of preference, and the preference of the heteroflexible is quite clear.’ Such a preference involves retaining a self-identification as heterosexual by thinking of heterosexuality as a flexible sexual orientation category. To be heteroflexible is therefore perceived as the opposite of being heterorigid. It compels a redefinition of heterosexuality, expanding the category to allow some degree of same-sex desires so that individuals who are not exclusively sexually interested in members of the ‘opposite sex’ can continue thinking of themselves as straight or heterosexual. […]

    This idea is well illustrated by Savin-Williams and Vrangalova (2013) in a review article entitled ‘Mostly heterosexual as a distinct sexual orientation group: A systematic review of the empirical evidence’. As this title suggests, these scholars emphasized the notion of mostly heterosexual as a category that is altogether separate from heterosexuality. In their analysis, they ‘found support for the claim that mostly heterosexuals form a unique sexual orientation group from four separate sources of evidence: sexual orientation profiles, prevalence, stability, and subjective relevance’. Their analysis led Savin-Williams and Vrangalova to conclude that:


    Specifically, mostly heterosexuals of both sexes and across developmental ages revealed a distinctive sexual orientation profile – they were more same-sex oriented than heterosexuals, but less so than bisexuals, in their sexual/romantic attraction, fantasy, behaviour, and physiological arousal. (Savin-Williams and Vrangalova, 2013: 76) […]
    As part of their self-identification as straight, for many of our participants it is of utmost importance to assert that they are primarily attracted to women and not to men. Sean (34, white) justified his identification as ‘bi-curious but also straight’ in these terms:

    If I’m out in a social situation, I’m almost 100% looking at women, and not at men. . . Bisexual is closer to 50/50 in terms of attraction to both sexes. . . Bi-curious, to me, tends to be more attracted to the opposite sex and more likely not openly identifying as interested in homosexual sex.
    Sean also stressed that his primary attraction to women is permanent, and distanced himself from ‘people who identify as bi-curious who are on their way to being openly bisexual or even openly gay or exclusively homosexual’.

    Others argued that they have no attraction to men at all, in spite of the fact that they engage in sex with men. As Reggie (28, African American,) put it:


    I know what I like. I like pussy. I like women. . . the more the merrier. . . I would kiss a woman. ANYWHERE. I can barely hug a man. . . I do have a healthy sexual imagination and wonder about other things in the sexual realm I’ve never done. . . Sometimes I get naughty and explore. . . That’s how I see it.
    By interpreting his same-sex desires as the result of naughtiness and sexual exploration, Reggie rationalized that he is not attracted to men and that his sexual activity with men is not self-defining. Similarly Charlie (32, white) stated:

    Women are hot. . . I can see a beautiful woman walk down the street and I instantly can become hard and get horny. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy walking by and got a boner. Also, I would not want to kiss or make out with them or love them. They would be more like a sexual experience.
    As Charlie’s comment suggests, for some of these men, whether they feel that they are sexually attracted to someone or not depends not only on a sense of physical attraction, but also emotional attraction. Indeed, a measure of their lack of sexual attraction to men was the frequent perception that they could fall in love with a woman but not with a man (on this issue see also Reback and Larkins, 2010). For instance, Ajay (22, Asian American) stated: ‘I can’t see myself with a guy in anything more than sex, and lately it’s with me getting head. With a girl I can see myself [spending] the rest of my life.’ Similarly, Gus (27, white) felt ‘no craving for anything long term’ involving a man, ‘there’s no wanting to be emotionally intimate’, and Freddie (25, Latino/white) went further by saying: ‘I don’t enjoy [being with] men. I use them, I guess you would say. I would describe a bisexual as someone who likes guys and girls, not just one, and I only really like women.’ For men such as Freddie, men are purely sexual objects.

    Paradoxically, although sex with men can be arousing and exciting, for some of these men it does not involve a sexual attraction toward male bodies. In Josh’s words (21, white), ‘I could never really be attracted to a male body, well most of the time I would say. Just everything that makes up the human body, face, legs, etc.’ And Rodolfo (22, Latino) likewise stated: ‘I never feel attracted to men physically, never have I looked at a guy and say, ‘‘wow, good looking guy.’’ It is more about the sex part.’ […]

    Some men distinguished between attraction to men and attraction to penises, which they believed are two very different things. They felt that male bodies do not arouse them, but penises do. Ajay (22, Asian American) was motivated to have sex with men ‘mostly [because of] their cock. Every time I did anything with a guy it mostly depended on their cocks. I didn’t really care what they looked like.’ And Josh (21, white) saw a penis as an improvement over a dildo. ‘There’s just something about the living male penis that is much hotter than a toy made out of some material made to look or slightly feel like the male penis’, said Josh. In a similar vein, Sam (42, white) said, ‘these playmates are only living and breathing dildos’. This emphasis on the attractiveness of penises also made pre-op transgender women perfect partners for some of these men. For instance, Josh (21, white) liked trans women who have ‘the features of a girl’s body. . . and the most ‘‘exciting’’ part of a guy’.

    That men were able to recognize being attracted to the penis as the only salient feature of the male body, as something better than a sex toy (‘a living dildo’), or even as an exciting part of a non-male body, but at the same time denied being attracted to men, suggests the intricate interpretations that these men must make to convince themselves that they are indeed straight. Bisexuals and gays are attracted to men, and could fall in love with a man, but not them. This idea was further confirmed by the less typical case of Byron (43, white), who said that he started thinking of himself as possibly bisexual ‘when I realized I could have romantic feelings for a guy. . . the difference for me [was] when being with a man was no longer merely about sex with a man’.

    Source DOI: 10.1177/1363460716678561

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    Men without substantial arousal to female and male stimuli are not considered bisexual. People who identify as bisexual when they have very limited interest in men are not doing anyone a favour. They are just creating confusion and possibly disappointment by raising expectations that cannot be met. From a bisexual perspective, this should be strongly opposed.

    From a gay perspective, the traditional term for such males is TRADE and definitely not bisexual.

    ”MOSTLY STRAIGHT”, “STRAIGHT PLUS” or “STRAIGHT” with or without individual qualifiers is therefore preferable.
     
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  19. Well I'm curious

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    Still straight and think I always will be. I have fantasies and desires.
    I'm open to the idea and it's going to be my business no-one else.

    Years ago in maybe my late 20's a much younger guy wanted to dance with my wife and I don't dance . No harm she was happy to dance and it made her feel good. Maybe it was an opening to a conversation or more. I didn't see it at the time but he implied she was pretty good for a mum etc.
    If, maybe if we struck up conversation he may have suggested more.
    Being away for the weekend and much younger she may have gone for it..

    I think back then I could have been interested in Bi play in theory but not open to tell her.

    I think had we have all got together it should be all fair if your all in. Probably could have spit roast her and I'm pretty sure I could be into him at the moment but it would go south if she got cold feet and I went on with him.

    Never going to know but I wish we had tried in our 20's as I'm still sure I could be into a young guy if he started something.
     
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    I thought about that as well. I love pussy. Everything about it. However, the thought of sucking dick really has me curious and wanting to try it, which I'm sure I will enjoy. But that won't change how I enjoy pussy. :tongueout:
     
  21. TomofGa

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    That is 1000% correct! No matter what my wife gets us into, my defacto is female, pussy, flavors, backside, sex. Al the other is what it is, entertaining and keeps my wife so crazy and wild I never do without.
     

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