You cant say ''****' 'in North America

...and one of the ways is stopping him from "cussing," as Americans call it.


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no...it didnt hurt...i mistook a comment..not a big deal.....


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About as much as people who think saying "****" is uncouth, or a sin....****.

 

You're not trying to redeem yourself, at this late juncture, in the eyes of the faux decent, are you, ROLLINGALONG??

 

It's all good now

 

.....no...because i know that i am vrais decent

 

That's the problem with blue language, it can be funny, if the person means it that way, but it offends a lot of people. Thus ruining its comedic value.

I understand people not liking certain words, but I believe that it's the intent behind them that makes them offensive or not.

Look at the way some black people call each other "nigga". They mean it like "hey man". But if someone who was not black called them a ****** with malicious intent, then the word is used to hurt.

If someone playfully calls a friend a "bitch", no harm done. But if they're in a fight and the person says, "you're such a bitch," then the woman would get pissed off.


Words only have as much meaning as we give them. No more, no less. So I think that the intent of the person saying the word is much more important than the word itself. 'Bad' words can be used in funny ways, people do it all the time. They can also be used to hurt. If someone is using a 'bad' word with comedic intent, then I don't think it's necessarily offensive.

Someone posted this the other day, he uses the words in a funny way. It's hard to take offense when you understand how he means what he says. By using the words the way he does he's also taking away their power as negative terms. After being thrown around they just sound like useless words, not hurtful ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuLrBLxbLxw"]YouTube - Louis C.K - **** & ******

 

That's one of the things I love about Louis CK. Well, that and the fact that he overshares so much and it's fun to watch people squirm at his gross jokes.
But anyway, the last of his shows I saw he definitely went about explaining what these words meant to him as a kid before they were wiped out by the PC crowds so that later when he used them, you could only laugh, because a) it was funny, and b) it was like he had made it an inside joke between you and him, and it would look really bad if someone walked in and saw you laughing at a white guy screaming ****** on your tv... and suddenly how absurd it seems that we give these words such power in the first place.
In my opinion, it would be much more a statement to not give a fuck, meaning the damage that was done can't touch you anymore. You've risen above it.
But then again, I might qualify as a privileged white bitch, and I honestly might not understand...

 

It sounds to me like you understand quite clearly. What you think is right, not what others think.

This is why that thing with Michael Richards went the way it did. When he started saying the word ****** people were laughing, then his whole tone of voice changed and the words took on a different connotation and the audience shifted and turned against him. And rightfully so in my opinion.

It's healthy to be able to laugh at these things. If we can laugh at what scares us, what offends us, and laugh at ourselves, we'll be much better off for it. We take the negativty out of the situation and we regain power over words.

Here's another example. He's speaking on behalf of Rodney King (a black man who was unfairly beaten by a group of white cops in the 1990's) while at the same time using the word ******. He's defending the treatment of King while at the same time joking about the event. His use of the word isn't malicious, in fact he's using the word ****** to make fun of the malicious behaviour of the cops. He's using the word against a racist act. It takes the power away from the word and those terrible cops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=935xZdnVwq4"]YouTube - Bill HIcks - Officer ****** Hater

 

Lenny Bruce did a good job of this too.

 

He did. Bill Hicks was often compared to Lenny Bruce. Lenny was in all regards a true trail blazer. No one had ever dared to do what he did and at the same time wouldn't have thought of using words the way he did.

It's amazing the power words have over us. They're so ingrained in us from the day we're born. We trust others because of words, we love and laugh because of words, we can make our loved ones happy with words, we can say things that might never be expressed using words.

So it's understandable why some feel so strongly about words. But ultimately I think it's the connotation and intent that gives a word any power it might have.

 

See how a simple word, imperially pronounced verboten by bourgeois God-bothering bull-shitters, who relish religious and class supremacy, can divide and set artificially decent people against free-speech loving "sinful" folk?

See why superficially decent folk, "Whited Sepulchres," as Jesus called them, make me sick?

 

I used to say fag, or faggot all the time.. and never really thought anything of it.. until like, 6 months ago, I was around a group of people actualy using it to describe gay people in a hateful way.

until then, I knew what it meant, but when I used it I was never actualy refering to gay people, and for me, that wasnt even really the meaning.

I`ve hardly ever used it since then..

as for ****.. I didnt realize it was such a heavy word.. classifying it with ****** and faggot? why is it so offensive?... but whatever

 

I'm glad I was understood. Really the last line was just a disclaimer in case someone came by and said "hey, you don't know, man." No, I guess I don't know, but I can try and put myself in those shoes as best I can and knowing me, I wouldn't give it the satisfaction. I guess I just wasn't brought up to really fight over words, but that's just the environment I was brought up in. I was a weird kid, but I don't think I'd go so far as to say I've experienced any real discrimination.
That said, I still maintain that going through life with a chip on your shoulder isn't healthy to anyone, least of all the one carrying it around...

Ha, I love this. What a perfect name for them.

 

Because all three are pretty well the worst term possible used to describe a person of a certain origin.

Many people use the word 'gay' today as a way of saying "that's stupid".

"Oh, that's gay." meaning, "oh, that's stupid."

But this isn't really taking the power out of the word. It's using it to describe something that is dumb or undesirable. Therefore it automatically insinuates that there must be something wrong with being gay, as though being gay is dumb or undesirable. The person using it just comes across as callous. It's not funny or useful.

 

I swear I used to think the **** word originated from (cunnilingus ;google me)..

 

Oh yes, words are very divisive, Lostthoughts. For instance, take America's approximately thirty thousand divergent Protestant sects. How many words do you think keep them apart?? I'd say a couple of dozen.

 

Ah yes....Cunnilingus.....I wonder what my depraved Anglo-Celtic ancestors called that thoroughtly decent, ennobling Latin word doctors and devil-dodgers use for "sucking snatch"??

 

i thought it was the other way around...first came the ****...then came the cunnilingus

 

How would a decent Christian woman, or the priggish shrinking violets here, get their snatch sucked?? Probably by saying something like, “Oh dahling, would you please insert your index and middle finger in my rectum and stimulate my lower colon while you cunnilingus my clitoris and labia until I orgasm!”