I am oblivious to all the problems on this thread. Why do people seek to change society instead of trying to change their view of society? If you're looking for a date in a bar, you know damn well that it's a 90% to 20% chance you'll fail (or not get what you want.) I love bars and have always considered them as a.) a place to be alone and yet among friends (corner bar), or b.) a great place to TAKE a date (and play, 'look at that jackass making himself a fool trying to hook-up with somebody!") There are local theatres, movie houses, barn dances, restaurants, etc. availabe also as dating places, but not pickup sites. Our society and its women expect a man not to whine, move with alacrity when he sees a female to his liking, and vibrate with a certain self confidence. It does not expect him to cogitate on the unfairness of life. That is a given!
You could have saved yourself much typing and simply said: "Comformity is the only virtue." Congratulations, everyone loves you.
I just had a long conversation with my ex-girlfriend of 3 years yesterday. We broke up but we are still sharing the apartment till the weekend: I told her how important it was for me, when I first met her, that she took an active, participant, mutual interest in me. I never felt like I had to woo my girlfriend into sex or anything else. We had sex the night we met because we both wanted it. No preconceived notions, no rules... And that is because she is a feminist and, like me, believes women aren't passive little pretty things. That they should be capable of pursueing their own desires, sexually and otherwise. She responded to calls, she would insist on picking up her part of the tab "because she can take care of herself", and I didn't feel like a walking wallet. It was entirely mutual human interest. What we didn't share, she did it herself. I don't think I've ever been so comfortable in a getting to know scenario and now I'm scared that I won't again find such chemistry. I was never AFRAID of it "not working out" with her, and that is because she didn't play any passive-aggressive games and neither did I.
Thanks, LOTF. It hasn't made me feel better, but it makes me more hopeful. I'm very tired of the pressure placed on me by other women to "chase" them, while they run away. It's dehumanizing. Then, after, we get together they want to own my body. Go figure...