WWIII

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by skip, Dec 4, 2023.

  1. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    As you take a look around the world you may notice that many countries are getting prepared for war. Countries are upping their military budgets, developing new weapons including new ever more powerful WMD.

    I see at least six separate military clashes on the horizon or already begun.

    1. Russia vs Ukraine: This one has been going on nearly two years already with no end in sight, no negotiations and continuing buildup on both sides of newer, better weapons. You already have lines being drawn between the EU, UK, US, etc. vs China and Iran all helping Russia and Ukraine to keep the war going.

    2. Israel vs Palestine: This one seemed to come out of the blue, but given the enmity between these two peoples it was bound to happen again, and again. The US is deeply involved here as well as Iran. It would eventually include Syria and Lebanon, even possibly Egypt.

    3. US vs Iran: This one is already getting hot as the US pounds Iranian proxies in Gaza, Syria, and Yemen. How long before it becomes a direct confrontation. I'm amazed the US hasn't declared war on Yemen yet.

    4. North Korea vs South Korea: Again the US is highly committed here to defending South Korea against a nuclear armed adversary. The saber rattling has escalated as there are now no negotiations or communications between any of the parties. And as we have seen, both China and now Russia are assisting the North both economically and militarily.

    5. China vs Taiwan: This has been building up for decades. China has been very provocative with ever expanding exercises encroaching on Taiwan's sovereignty with the goal of unification and absorption. This war would likely involve Japan as well as the US, possibly South Korea as there are US bases there and Japan.

    6. China vs Philippines: The South China Sea is already a hotbed of daily confrontations between China who claims much of the sea, and the Philippines and Vietnam who claim parts that China also claims. China has also been harassing naval vessels and air planes from the US and other countries that try to use freedom of navigation thru the area. This contravenes established laws and can in some cases be considered acts of war themselves. Having built new island bases there in the middle of contested waters, it's only a matter of time before China exerts total control, especially once they're at war.

    7. Africa: Few people are paying attention to what is going on in Africa. Both China and Russia have carved large spheres of influence in a number of countries. China supplies economic and commercial support while Russia seems to be offering military advice and security to questionable African leaders. Of course this is to enable both Russia and China to exploit Africa to their hearts content without concerns. This can become a theater of war since both superpowers have bases in Africa now.

    8. Argentina vs UK: Falkland Islands again. This won't attract much attention if the above happens. A long shot.

    9. India vs Pakistan: Another long on and off again conflict that could erupt if the major powers are at war too. These two have nuclear arsenals that could wipe both countries out.

    10. India vs China: Too many people would be at risk here. 3 billion? I don't think there's enough enmity yet for them to go at it for real. Just border disputes.

    So you can see how quickly one war can lead to another and next thing you know the entire world is at war. It would be the West vs the East pretty much. And with right wing nuts spreading their propaganda, people are getting psyched up for war.
     
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  2. Constantine666

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    Someone, (In Politics no doubt) once said; "Peace is just that period of planning for he next war." We Humans thrive on conflict, that is the nature of Animal we are. We will eventually wipe ourselves out. It's just what we do. Try to stop it, and you simply create a new conflict. Such irony, it's a wonder we've lasted this long.
     
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  3. Toker

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    The first target of the superpowers will be a war in SPACE! Each country will try to knock out the enemy's satellites. This is to blind them to the battlefields even before major hostilities.

    New weapons like hypersonic missiles are likely controlled in real time by satellite communication. Which also means they could be hacked in mid-flight if the system has been compromised.

    So whomever can control the eyes in space will have a huge advantage, if indeed that level of control can be established. More than likely most satellites will become space junk, taking out other satellites.
     
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  4. Constantine666

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    Whether people know it or not, most newer communications are controlled by satellites these days. That includes the Global Internet and Telephone services. Much of the ground based and cable dependent telephone services have become defunct. Some Telephone companies are no longer capable of providing wire-based telephone service. There are even satellites owned by the USA that allow other countries to have internet and communications. It will be hard to pick and choose which satellites to attack, since the US is really bad at assigning single uses to things. It will be a crap shoot. Taking out a satellite suspected of controlling long range missiles could also house the terminals that will prevent them or their allies from targeting space based assets in the future.

    Imagine hitting one satellite and your whole system goes down, but the enemy still has control of their other assets. Ooops. It will be a question of who can control and lock down which assets first.
     
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  5. Echtwelniet

    Echtwelniet Visitor

    Dont forget Venezuela(maduro) and Guyana..

    I am a bit afraid of the idear of letting Ukraine join the EU and also NATO while still in war, putting Putin more on a edge....

    I dont think(hope) WW3 will start soon........proxywars are more profiting(silent thirdparty).......and i think(hope) most superpowers(china/rus/nato) still have some sense, to not push stupid buttons.
    If China and US ever go to war that will be economic/financial suicide for both and with all the science and tech going on,things are changing fast,even in war.More afraid of terrorist and small crazy dictators/country s(proxy s) :D

    Mzzls
     
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  6. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    That is not quite true, since the rapid growth of fibre optics, but satellites are still preferred by the military. The problem is the ease at which they can be moved, since it happens all the time to keep their orbit in line. Here in the UK, communication satellites can be trimmed from a laptop computer.
     
  7. scratcho

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    Sigh.Humanity at it's finest. The problem with weapons is that if they exist--eventually they will be used, including the worst of them. :cool:This is the only planet sentience can live comfortably--planning to live elsewhere is folly. The earth will abide, but humans will most likely not. :confused::weary:
     
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  8. Constantine666

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    Fiber Optic networks are point to point, and terminate at a hub. in some cases those hubs communicate via satellite. Some VOIP Networks only use Cable, to connect the Central Office to the End User, but the CO connects tot he backbone via Satellite communication. C-Band is becoming common in rural areas or areas with heavy weather systems, to allow CO's to communicate with their backbones. Check out a Central Office somewhere, some time and see if there are one or more large satellite dishes on the property.
     
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  9. wilsjane

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    Without such large geographical distances, this is not as common in the UK, except in the remote areas of Scotland and Wales.
     
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  10. Constantine666

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    Eventually, it will get there. I hear that some company out there recently ran fiber through the Channel Tunnel to connect London and Paris. But eventually that run has to end.Cable, even fiber, can only go so far without needing bridges. And nowadays the simplest bridge will be a 5G or C-Band connection.
     
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  11. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    When BT constructed the post office tower in London in the 60's, it was famous for its revolving restaurant. However, in the years that followed, it became just a mass of microwave dishes. Following concerns about their affects on aviation, particularly emergency helicopters, they have now all been removed.
    BT's acquisition of EE has allowed 5G to take care of the bridges. The addition of WIFI backup on fibre routers was a cunning move, not only providing backup for the subscriber, but allowing the difference between the 500mb contract speed and the 3gb speed of the fibre feed to become part of the public WIFI network. With dynamic IP, it is virtually untraceable. That is why static IP is so much more expensive.
     
  12. Constantine666

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    I love the simplicity of your comment. But do you understand that Cellular communications are not wire or cable based? that any Signal broadcast over the air can be intercepted? And IF your internet communication were "Untraceable," you would also be untraceable, which would stop any web sites from loading, since you are technically NOT THERE to see it.

    You have to present an address to the site you are surfing to in order to gain access. And whether Dynamic or Static IP, you are never untraceable or undetectable by the ISP or Service Provider you use to gain access to the Internet. WIFI is also an over the air protocol and must have a land based point of origin.

    Actually, Static IP's are more expensive, berceuse, unlike Dynamic, The service provider cannot simply assign a single IP to you. HIs IP Pool comes in block, and the smallest block I know of is five static IP's that you would need to pay monthly for. Now there is an upside and downside to that. the upside being you can have five static devices with their own IP's which means you could run your own web server dependent of your other daily driver. The downside is you are stuck with four useless IP's if you don't have or don't plan to have other servers.

    Dynamic IP's means that each IP block is shared with other users and you may get the saqme IP your neighbor had yesterday. It's a crap shoot.

    Internet Anonymity is a myth.
     
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  13. wilsjane

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    That is the reason that rather than have static IP to run our email server, I pay BT to host the domain. one advantage is that as well as access via outlook I can access via BT webmail. the disadvantage is that emails sent via webmail do not copy to our server, unless I copy them to myself and move them.
    Most businesses using static IP, use channels to run their PDQ systems.
    The downside is that I cannot blow my nose, without the inland revenue being copied in.
    The upside is that it makes tracking terrorism, organised crime and paedophile rings as simple as ABC.
     
  14. Constantine666

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    Letting the ISP host your email is the easiest way for just about everything. If you are unsure of how best to run an MX server and secure it, then best not to fool with it. Just be careful and read your ISP's terms of service carefully, because you may inadvertently send mail that violates your ISP's terms of service.I've run into that all too often.

    My service caters to the medical profession, and we send a lot of emails. Problem was that the ISP I had hosting us, had a small clause stating that we were restricted to 150 emails per day total. Well, we send messages and physician consults regularly and because of the client base we serve, ended up sending roughly 260 emails per shift, 3 shifts for a total of 780 emails a day. And that was on a slow day. Needless to say, they flagged my domain and suspended the service for spamming. It took a lawyer and several months to clear that mess up. in the meantime I setup an email server on my own and got us back up and running within 24 hours.
     
  15. wilsjane

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    Life is never simple, fortunately I don't use a lot of emails these days.
    In the past, BT business ran on their connect banks of servers, but due to the increasing demands of catch up television, they contracted the emails to Microsoft. However, they used an older version of 365 that Microsoft no longer support, so BT had to run the support. It was a nightmare, with hacking from Russia being the main problem.
    At the start, working in cardio thoracic surgery, I was sending emails all over the world concerning TAVI (Transcatheter aortic valve implant), so I was exceeding those limits you mentioned. Supermarket mailshots on their rewards programmes suffered the same problem. Fortunately, with around 10,000 emails a day, most of them ran their own servers.
     
  16. Constantine666

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    Unfortunately, that's the way of things. Most commercial email providers don't want you sending excessive amount of emails per day and even sites that specialize in email campaigns have certain limits and requirements. The only real soltio is to run your own server, and learn how to secure it properly.
     
  17. wilsjane

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    One problem is overnight, weekends and holidays. Major companies can afford to operate an IT desk 24/7. The night shift often take care of the large mailshots.
     
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    Can we get back on the subject please. This isn't about emails.
     
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    Whops...... I don't want to be the one starting WW111.
     
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