wow, and i always thought the gateway theory was bullshit

oh by the way juggala, you sure it wasnt a gateway drug for you?

 

id still smoke crack occasionaly even if weed didnt exist

 

to each his own.

 

haha nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh man i didn't mean to sound pissed i loveeeeeeee alllllllllllll you guyzzzzz. Everybody come on over And smoke some weed with meeeeeee. hahaha yea mannnnnnnnn

 

what the fuck?

 

The gateway theory is one of the things they tell you in health class whicah acutally IS REAL.

 

Not so, Watson.

Ponder a few things:

Correlation does not imply causation. This is one of the fundamental principles of the scientific method.

Weed is by far the easiest illegal drug to access almost everywhere. This increases the plant's exposure among youth and teens extraordinarily. Naturally, the percent of hard drug users who have also used marijuana, or used marijuana first, is going to be a large number. A number large enough that uneducated folks who look at it will immediately assume a causal relationship between weed usage and the use of harder drugs. When in fact, it is almost always cooincidental.

Also, some people can simply be expected to get into harder drugs at some point in their life. Blaming marijuana for this just because it was the first drug they happened to come across is unfair.

Of course there are going to be examples of people going directly from weed into harder drugs, and I don't doubt that in some of these cases, there actually was a 'gateway effect.' However, that brings me to perhaps my most important point:

The plural of anecdote is not data.



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its like saying chocolate is a gateway for fat people. yes the fat person probably ate chocolate befor they got fat but dose that mean chocolate made then eat more and get fat no they made the chose to eat to much. If you look at how many people have smoked weed at some point in there life(last I herd was something like 70%) not very many went on to use other drugs(altho the FDA dose not consiter herbs drugs so why is cannabis), the gateway theoy implize pot made them do. that with out pot they never would have done any drugs. that is just bullshit they made the chose to do them there was not a little pot demon on there shoulder telling them TRY THIS NOW TRY THIS!!!!! the gateway theoy is just another atempt to make it right to prohibit the most benine medicine on this fucking earth. its really sad to see so many of you by in to that stupid shit. YOU MAKE THE CHOSE TO DO DRUGS



sorry to rant but people need to take responsibility for them selves.

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Well you know, if your going to build a gate into the kingdom of drugs, where else better than amongst cannabis?



The gateway theory is real, however, as i talked about in another post, its often misinterpreted. Its not that weed causes progression to other drugs, but when a person tries something they consider a 'drug' then they often loose the feeling people have before they try drugs, that its some crazy thing that bad people do, as most children believe, and rightfully so (kids should not do drugs of course! neither should teenagers but as if we ever did whats best for us ). once they realise that the drug theyre takin is just anotehr chemical like all the rest, this raises the chance of someone trying more drugs.

however, with alchohol and cigarettes, because of they way they are accepted, they are not seen as 'drugs' but enough people in teh world, unfortunately, and so they tend not to lead to gateway effect.

if someone's first drug was crack, it would be very likely that that would be their gateway. same with any drug. the more hardcore the drug is in the user's mind, the more likely it is going to lead to them trying new drugs.

however, for weed smokers the category canbe split. many cannabis smokers percieve weed as a 'soft' drug like most people see alchohol and cigarettes, and so it doesnt lead to them wanting more. but others really love the aspect of the 'drug' and so they want to try new thigns.

im of the latter, myself, my inhibition to taking drugs has lowered tenfold since becoming a stoner. though i still will not shoot up for the time being. and i aint payin for cocaine products either. im like that about alchohol too tho, ill take it if someone else is payin

In conclusion, while you make the choice, drugs influence the choice.

 

funny you say that becaue thats what the gateway theoy is!!!!!

so what your saying is if it was not illeagel the "gateway theoy" would not aplie.lol thats bullshit. no weed is not just another cem. it a whole plant.most drugs are refined people did not have any problems with coca till it was refined .people did not have problems with poppys when they use the whole pods.

yes i agree that by having pot illeagal that it opens up people to hard drugs.but thats not pots fault its the laws fault. so put the blame where it should go.

 

yea..its the gateway THEORY. That doesn mean its going to happen. Its just a fucking theory.

 

Why the fuck do people label marijuana as a "gateway" drug... why cant they just call it as it is...... CURIOSITY!.... damn i smoked cigs before i smoked weed... lets call tobacco a gateway drug.... i drank before i got high.... lets call alcohol a gateway drug..... theres only one reason people try/do other drugs.... its becuase they were curious..... not becuase they needed somethin stronger than weed.... they just wanted to know what other shit was all about... and yea, some people end up liking somethin else and get addicted to it.... thats their problem, dont blame it on some harmless herb

 

I was stealing my dads alcohol before I ever got high.

 

the goverment helps by they're lieing about pot(ever been in dare) some kids start smoking pot and find they've been lied to and think that is all that was said was a lie they may blindly get in to other drugs.again this is not pots fault its the goverments. I say we ban the goverment!!!!

 

dare was fucking hilarious. I remember watching a movie and there was a giant joint -Mary J. wuana- chasing a little girl and a rabbit on crack or something. it was so much fun in dare.

 

I had some cool pics I cut out of the paplets they gave me like the lsd suger cube man and the pot leaf man

 

I put a dare sticker on my window. Just wanted to let the neighboorhood and everyone who sees my window from my driveway that im drug free

 

what you're talking about is actually a seperate theory than the gateway theory, since the gateway theory has basically been disproved. the theory you talk about is based on the idea that people sometimes move on to other drugs because of association with the original drug, meaning once they are around the drug (e.g. marijuana) and culture surrounding the drug they grow used to the idea of drugs (what you were saying) and can get other drugs. too bad you didn't come up with the theory sooner, maybe you'd get a prize or something

sorry man, i think you just misinterpreted what stonerbill was saying, i don't think he was saying if marijuana was legalized, there would be no "gateway theory", he was saying the gov't doesn't talk about alcohol or tabacco being "gateway drugs" because they are too integrated into our culture to be alienated like that, but marijuana isn't accepted at the moment. when you say "weed is not just another cem (chemical)" i think you perceive "chemicals" as things like hydrochloric acid or cocaine, but stonerbill was refering to chemicals as in what the definition is, a substance composed of chemical elements (e.g. water, or anything). sorry if i seem like an ass, just trying to clarify things. just tell me to fuck off if you think i'm acting like a smartass

 

novict this is what i was going on read it more carfuly

 

Sorry if this was mentioned before, but I think part of it (regarding what Stoner Bill says about opening the mind to other drugs once one has been tried with success or enjoyment) is at that point there may be an involvment with the black market and the other drugs are easier to find?