Would YOU vote for RON PAUL

Just don't move there, I'm sure the residents won't mind. 7.2% unemployment in Maine.

 

They have an influence on the world regardless.

 

They're making spending and tax cuts, so let's hope so.

 

Ok, I can accept that most everyone thinks my idea of a voter boycott is silly. :bigcry:

I think a one person superman-fix of Ron Paul is naive.

Would anyone else care to offer a viable solution?

 

None of us paulbots think he is a one man fix, that's the big assumption most people who don't like him make. We are voting for him because regardless of whether he wins or loses some of his ideas are going to pass on and hopefully get discussed more often.

Here's a solution: http://reconomy.net/

 

Yeah, I don't recall anyone saying that Ron Paul is a one person superman fix, either. Rather than ask others to offer up a viable solution, let's hear yours first, outthere.

 

He is just one man afterall, and I don't dislike him. I dislike his ideology.

His ideology would put government more in bed with corporations than we already are.

 

Storch, refer to my previous post:

Ok, I can accept that most everyone thinks my idea of a voter boycott is silly. :bigcry:

I think a one person superman-fix of Ron Paul is naive.

Would anyone else care to offer a viable solution?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS3PoStYEjg"]Ian Bremmer on a G-Zero World - YouTube

 

What I meant was for you to offer up a viable solution.

 

Or, refer to my previous post.

 

I think a well organized voter boycott with a spokesperson and a wad of cash (you can't do anything in this system without cash, which is by design) has potential.

We would also need a constitutional ammendment to spell out that corporations are not people and money is not speech.

Do you have anything besides a one-man fix?

 

You keep brining up a one-man fix... Where is this coming from? Lol nobody here believes one man will fix this shithole country.

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/07/11583173-report-cia-foiled-al-qaida-plot-to-destroy-us-bound-airliner?lite

Look our country saved us! Hoorayyy

World is going to shit and we're discussing presidential opinions lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4AXJx3IzdY"]Greek neonazi leader gives Hitler-style speech after the elections - YouTube

If Ron Paul doesn't win vote Gary Johnson

 

Maybe if a third person comes in and tells him that no one has said that a one-man superman fix is going to make everything alright, he'll come to accept it as a reality.

 

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I don't think anyone thinks that RP is a one man superman fix all hero. Like someone else already stated, that is a category you seem to be put in when you voice support for the man. He obviously can't fix things, but he is a step in the right direction. If he won the rep nominee or better yet the presidency, it would be a HUGE wake up call to the establishment. More people like him would start to stand up on both sides and things might start moving.

Despite what some here might think, just because I support RP doesn't mean I'm inline with "neoconservative" or even Libertarian ideals. I realize that a truely effective Government would be one filled with both sides of every argument. I choose to vote for the person, not the party. And don't want an
absolute anything.

And I don't think that a voting boycott is silly, I used to be in the same boat. And now I don't vote just to vote, I'll only vote for someone I think has the balls to actually change things. If less people voted "for the lessor of two evils," it would be a huge step. And might actually lead to some type of vote boycott

 

My Dad looks a lot like Norris, every time I see that it's like my fathers stamp of approval lol

 

Even if someone with a 'wad' of cash was able to organize a voter boycott,what would be accomplished? The election would still be won by the candidate with the largest number of votes. Government could/or would continue as usual assuming those not casting a vote simply had no preference, with all candidates being equally satisfactory.
Recognize the fact that there is a great difference between government and the governed in relation to cash. The needs and wants of the governed depends greatly upon their ability to acquire cash, while government has the ability to borrow cash or create it out of thin air, with the governed being made responsible for repaying it, and experiencing the consequences of inflation.

If any Constitutional changes are needed, it would be the repeal of the 16th and 17th amendments. The owners and investors in Corporations are people, and it is their interest that Corporations spend money in order to have their voices heard. Speech emanates from the minds of people, and money is only useful as a means of making it available to a wider audience.

No one, including Ron Paul, has implied that Ron Paul is a one man fix. Basically, what Ron Paul is saying is that our government too, needs to be governed, and that is the intention of our Constitution, which only works properly when our elected 'representatives' adhere to it without reinterpretation without intent to achieve an agenda of change that the people have NOT consented to.

Our government has been gradually morphing toward Socialism for more than a century now, so it is quite easy to brand anyone who would try to restore it to sanity as an extremest, which Ron Paul is not. The changes needed, require not only electing a President who understands and would govern within the confines of our Constitution, but also members of both Houses of Congress who would take on the same responsibilities.

If you're interested in seeing some of what goes on in our government each day, look at the Federal Register, you might be amazed at what you find, not to mention the sheer volume of it.

www.gpo.gov/fdsys/browse/collection.action?collectionCode=FR

 

And this RP statement is from 4 months ago- he has no illusion's- -some good ideas that should be listened to- but no illusion's on this chances

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/01/ron-paul-doesnt-like-chances-to-win-white-house.html