Would YOU vote for RON PAUL

Roo

Thing is many will hold their nose and vote for Obama but would not actively promote him and his policies?

You are correct, the problem is that in a two party system, many people are going to have to vote NOT for what they see as the ‘better’ but just to try and keep out what they see as the ‘worse’ (and that goes for those on the left and right).

But again I fear you are right and some will seemingly blindly vote for what is (in my view) worse just to protest that the promised ‘better’ wasn’t supplied.

 

This thread isn't about me, I'm not going to go into detail and explain how my views differ from Paul's. I'll say that I like free market ideology, but I want some limited regulations where needed, such as the environment.

And to be honest, I don't remember you ever asking me to explain my own views. You repeatedly asked me to counter your criticisms of "right wing libertarians." I'm not a right wing Libertarian and I don't feel a need to defend their obvious faults. This isn't a college class and you are not my professor. This is (supposed to be) a casual discussion on whether or not you'd vote for Ron Paul.

 

Letlovin

But why would someone vote for something that would most likely make a bad situation worse?

In other words why would someone vote for Ron Paul?

And as I’ve pointed out none of those promoting Ron Paul’s right wing libertarian ideas seem able to explain why they are supporting something that would most likely make a bad situation worse.

Take you for instance you are basically just refusing to answer questions or address the criticisms levelled at these ideas, in other words you are not going to give any explanations as to why you are supporting something that would most likely make a bad situation worse.

You are right I’m not a professor and this isn’t a class, but it is a place to debate politics and you have come here promoting the politics of Ron Paul, I and others have given our criticisms of those ideas why can you not defend those ideas from those criticisms?

In other words why are you promoting ideas that you seem totally incapable of defending?

 

But they have explained why they think it would make a bad situation better. You have some valid criticisms.....congradulations. The thing is, there will never be a political party that's going to 100% fix everything. There will always be issues to deal with. And to again quote Thomas Jefferson, "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."

What ideas am I promoting so?

 

I don't vote. Not that into politics. I hear that there's a shadow government that really runs things in America.

 

You are correct! However, go out and vote and vote for Ron Paul. He isn't bought and paid for and is incorruptible. He will restore this country back to the way it is supposed to be and that is by the constitution.

 

letlovin

They have made the assertion that they think it would make things better but are unable to address the many, many criticisms of those assertion set out by me and others.

Yes there will always be criticisms; it is how those criticisms are approached that to me seems important. Are the criticisms ignored or addressed.
So far right wing libertarians seem to prefer to ignore criticisms rather than address them.

 

1993

Which means bugger all since no right wing libertarian has yet to address let alone refute the many criticisms that strongly suggest that Ron Pauls ideas would make the US a much worse place to live for most people while rewarding the few.

 

Yes Ron Paul might cut some programs but hey those people should have stood in school and graduated. And should be able to afford their own health insurance. Only old peoPle should receive benefits. Don't give all the immigrants welfare and health insurance that is paidforbwith our hard earn money that is taxed. Ron Paul is trying to make this country the way it was. If anyone has a problem with that they have not done their research because my mind is set, not because it is my opinion but because I know he is right

 

1993

I thing this supports my case this sounds more like the unquestioning follower of a religious cult than someone whose given these ideas serious and rational thought.

When?

 

Ok Balbus, shoot me a criticism about RP's platform that you think will make things worse, and I'll see if I can come back with something. Let's do one thing at a time though, because I work 2 jobs and don't have a lot of time all at once.

 

letlovin

LOL – you mean you haven’t read any of the many, many post from a variety of people that have criticised right wing libertarian ideas?

NOT one?

And anyway you have claimed many, many times that these criticisms have been addressed so why not just produce those? (I mean I’ve asked at least eight times now to do so).

But anyway as I’ve said earlier in this thread (and in others) to me the whole platform seems flawed so I’d say it’s a matter of what you think can you defend.

Can you defend any of it?

 

Let's have a go......give me a valid criticism of Paul's policy and I'll see what I can come up with. Be specific though, and let's focus on one aspect at a time.

 

I hav given the ideas, serious and rational thought, who else wouldn't want to better their country for the future and for their children and grandchildren?. And he will restore the country to when it was ran by the constitution not what the president or his puppet masters want. I have no further comments, because I'm an unquestioning follower of a religious cult? Lol. I support Ron Paul and I believe people should vote for him. He ideas make the most sense and are IMO what is best for this nation and the people, however this doesn't apply to you, you get to vote for a prime minister, who answers to the us government anyway

 

hes not left or right wing

 

He's in the we the people for the people Wing!

 

And don't forget the most important of all "By the people".

 

so arent i right about green party being anti secret society party or what?
when will the public wake up i mean i thought we were ready

 

We the people, deregulating everything for the rich people to get richer.....

He will protect you from the DEA, while keeping the feds out of your local pigs affairs so you can meet real fascism.... Not to mention heavy metal poisoning, and working for a company like foxconn, for your bowl of gruel a day. It will help the jobless numbers, though.

 

Who needs a job? It's governments responsibility to provide everyones needs. Only those greedy persons who want more than their basic needs should have to work.