Would YOU vote for RON PAUL

I always thought Ron Paul would make the USA a better place, but a lot of people are against him. I need to find a way to convert them into Pro-Ron Paul people.

 

Just make them think, its the only thing lacking...well accept for not knowing his full stance on the issues. That explained a lot of the statements and questions in this thread even. So if they read and think, were good...the USA has a chance!!!!

 

Liberal leaning. Ron Paul seems to be the only politician making any sense. I support a lot of his ideas however he has con's that make me hesitant towards voting for him. He would've voted against the Civil Rights bill, does not believe in a separation of church and state and is anti-abortion. He also has ties to the John Birch Society. I understand you can't always agree with all a candidate stands for but these really stood out to me. That aside, he seems to be the better candidate in comparison to Obama and all the clowns in the Republican Party.

 

Don't forget he is also against abortion being controlled federally, he's letting the states decide if its ok or not (just don't vote for him for governor LOL). Our economy is in such peril I believe its the single most important issue, without an economy, there is no USA. We need him to fix our economy.

 

The problem is the government being in bed with the corporations. How does the government regulate the corporations when the politicians work for the corporations and not the people?

 

"Being in bed" has a lot to do with the revolving door and the industry writing the legislation. This crap should be outlawed. Then, the regulations can be made more effective.

 

Industry has been "in bed" with congress going all the way back into the 1800's with standard oil and the railroads where the government actually helped them form monopolies.

I agree with Ron Paul on ending the Fed. If you study how they create money with interest attached they are literally forcing the American People into debt from the beginning. It's a sneaky and subtle way to enslave people.

 

The problem is that we are still not getting answers from the Paulets to the criticisms levelled against their ideas.

I mean this thread is littered with unanswered questions and unaddressed charges.

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Now let’s see the problem is that wealth has too much power and influence so of course the right wing libertarian solution to that problem is to give more power and influence to wealth.

Do you not see the flaw in that thinking?

 

Just about all the people work for the corporations. What can one say power has its ways and material rewards. Generally people are so easily bought and are as corruptible or more so than the masters they may decide to despise.

 

How are their ideas giving more power and influence to wealth?

 

The problem is that we are still not getting answers from the Paulets to the criticisms levelled against their ideas.

I mean this thread is littered with unanswered questions and unaddressed charges.

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1) low or no tax
2) deregulation
3) Little or no welfare
4) Free market/laissez faire based economics
5) Social Darwinist based education, healthcare etc.


Would give more power and influence to wealth so they can dominate directly or through whatever system they wish to set up?

 

^^^ This! ^^^

 

Taxes should be high enough to pay for government functions. Allowing more capital to stay in competitive markets where it can be used more efficiently is better. There's nothing wrong with people creating wealth as long as it's done in an honest way and they don't use it to create monopolies and cartels.

Degregulation that improves efficiency is generally good although some regulations are neccessary.

The government is stepping into the position of a church or charity when it provides welfare. Helping people in need is necessary, but other entities can do it better.

The power of competetion leads to more efficiency that benefits everyone. Free markets that are competetive and not monopolized are best.

Education has been government run since the 1950's and has been doing worse compared to other nations. The main problem with healthcare is the cost and pumping more money into it won't solve anything. Competition needs to be introduced by eliminating the monopolies that drug companies have and that the governement has been helping to facilitate.

Wealth isn't bad, as long as it's not abused or achieved in a dishonest way. No, they shouldn't be allowed to set up their own system, but that's exactly what they've done. Taxing them more won't fix the system, it's up to the American people to do that and ending the fed is a good place to start.

If the system itself benefits the wealthy, than a big government also gives them more power.

 

Couple 'a stats=the Waltons have more wealth than the bottom 30% of Americans.

30,00 children die every day around the world from starvation,disease & neglect.

Think things are in balance?

 

You like Utopian thinking don't you Monkey Boy. The right loves this, including its over used gas bags.

 

maybe Ron himself can answer some of your questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js3tlXuKJ8g"]Ron Paul I Don't Think Cutting Food Stamps For The Poor Is The Right Priority - YouTube

 

Monkey

This is the problem you are just repeating assertions that already have criticisms outstanding that have not been addressed.

Shouting out what are basically just slogans isn’t debate, answering questions and addressing critics is, but it seems right wing libertarians don’t seem to get that.

 

YoMama

LOL and maybe he can’t.

I mean did you actually listen to the thing you posted? Please do so and actually point to where in it that he answers any of the many criticism that are outstanding?

I mean it’s full of the same assertions that the rest of Paulets also make but no answers.

And so I ask again why does it seem that all the right wing libertarians that come here are so unwilling or unable to actually address these criticisms?

 

What's your main criticism? That the wealthy will always gain too much power in a free market?

 

like they aren't doing that now?