Would you let your 16 old?

Discussion in 'Parenting' started by Jointman69, Feb 17, 2005.

  1. leigh41663

    leigh41663 Member

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    Originally Posted by Maggie Sugar
    One of the parents called the cops, and not only was this dude arrested, but they took his HOUSE away and sold it for their "drug program."

    You know what really gets me about their "drug programs"... it is such a scam. Guess who the largest importer of drugs is in the U.S.??? The CIA. folks like daddy Bush and Bill Clinton.

    This drug war is scam. The folks in jail are NOT the criminals. Drugs like pot only became "illegal" because of the oil companies didn't want compitition. Hemp can be used for fuel and all kinds of other things. This was legislature brought on by the infamous criminal oil cartel family the Rockefellers.

    Thomas Jefferson and George Washing both grew hemp and used it on their farms. Couldn't find anyting regarding them smoking it... but I'm sure a few folks on their plantations probably did.

    The illegal corrupt federal govt in this country has illegally seized power given to the states in the constitution. This is one prime example. Their control over tabacco and alcolhol is another. Their programs like "no child left behind" is another. The constitution did NOT give the federal govt this type of authority. They seized it and we have allowed it.

    Coca-cola still imports and uses coca leaves for their products. Coca-cola is owned by the CIA. Which is run by the federal reserve board. Think that is part of the federal govt???/ Think again. It is owned by a few private banking individuals and is based in London.

    Research.
     
  2. Furryanimal

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    Coca hasn't been used in Coca-Cola for more than hundred years.

    [edit]Or maybe..?[edit]
     
  3. Incense

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    There's so little cocaine in Coca Cola that you'd have to drink an entire truckload to get even a little buzzed. Or so a Coke representative once told me...
     
  4. freeinalaska

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    You're right, they are not all peace loving hippies. Some are health care providers, lawyers, construction workers, teachers, stock brokers, business men and women, restaurant owners, environmental activists, parents, telecommunications engineers etc., etc.
     
  5. leigh41663

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    There are an interesting group of articles on the web entitled "Coca-Cola, CIA and the Courts"... I can't remember who wrote it. But just recently Coke admitted to still using cocaine in their products. They are the largest importer of Cocoa leaves into the country.

    to me, it really doesn't matter how much or little they use. The feds make the stuff illegal but yet they bring it in the country, use it in products to sell to the public. Then put the rest on the streets. Then they turn around and bust folks for using it.

    something is extremely wrong with that scenerio.
     
  6. Maggie Sugar

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    There is no ACTIVE cocaine of Coca Cola. You would test pos on a drug test after drinking a coke if there were. And people don't. There ARE decocainized coca leaves used in the flavoring. The leaves have the active cocaine removed, where it is used in the medical field (yes, there are still some medical uses for cocaine, it is a Schedule II drug, not a Schedule I, as most people think) it is used in eye surgeries and in intractable Cluster headaches among other things.

    The leaves are brought to the Coca Cola plants ALREADY free of any cocaine. How the leaves are used is a trade secret, but I am not sure the CIA is involved. :)
     
  7. Amanda's Shadow

    Amanda's Shadow Flower Child

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    im 16, valedictorian, and got a full scholarship to college, and i smoke. I am not sure my mom would care. I dont do anything else though. Shed care if I got arrested for it.

    Peace love and laughter
     
  8. phoenix cycle

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    when i was younger i would get wasted on redicoulusly dangerous things such as gasoline
    and things i would find at my house, i think kids are gonan do it one way or another, it would have been much better if my parents let me try it on occasions rather than have me risk my life on other things that often gave me bad trips ruined safer drugs for me. its like a bad dream and you cant get out and your mind goes in circles repeatign the same thing over and over. do the right thing teach your kids right..love respect the herb, and only the herb.
     
  9. crystalstarr

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    nope i wouldnt "allow" it. Of course i cannot control my child, but i've been there done that. instead of trying to control like my parents did, im going to give info and hopefully they will make the right choice.
     
  10. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    I could not stop them from smoking but I also at that age could not condone it.

    If you were asking me if my adult child (19) wanted to smoke then my answer might be different depending on the maturity of that adult. It is my home and therefore I make the rules.

    I would also not be able to stand that they are falling down drunk in my home.......just not acceptable to me as it indicates a problem.
     
  11. SilverClover14

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    And some are harder drug dealers, "gawthicks", gang members, dropouts, and general losers. In schools, generally the smart kids don't do it. Sure there's exceptions, but it's pretty rare.

    I wouldn't let my child do something that I don't respect. And since I have little to no respect for people who smoke and need to use something to get high, no way am I going to allow my child to do so. It's a waste of money for one, and for two if you REALLY need something like that to destress or to "open your mind", then you're not exploring the depths of your mind enough on your own which is something I want my children to learn how to do.
     
  12. Gr8fulyDeadicated

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    SilverClover14,
    i respect your choice not to smoke, but don't get all sanctimonious.
     
  13. Gr8fulyDeadicated

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    yeah, what he said. but my boys are still young yet, so we're still at the talking stage - i've talked with them a LOT about all kinds of drugs, sex, etc. and SO FAR, they have both told me that they aren't going to use drugs. or have sex. we'll see how long that lasts!!!
     
  14. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    I would be open about my history regarding toking, and I would advise them that I don't think it's a great idea, but is up to them. I hope that our bond would be close enough that they would tell me if they were, and I'd be sure to say that I would want to know and would not get angry with them at all. I would be more bothered if they hid it from me than I would be over the actual toking.
    I also would tell them to never drink and drive, and that if they were ever stuck, no matter the hour, to call me and I'd come pick them up.
    The other thing I would stress is that they should never forget that it is illegal, and if they get busted, they'll have to face the consequences.
     
  15. Furryanimal

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    You can get to jail in USA even for smoking itself???:eek:
     
  16. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    I'm from Canada, but I think each state is different, and as far as I know, in Alaska, small amounts of personal bud are legal. Here you only chance jailtime if you are a repeatedly convicted dealer, and small time personal busts are usually just a slap on the wrist.
     
  17. bedlam

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    yeap l'd let it happen...
     
  18. mtnhighgirl

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    Actually, right now there is a loop hole in the marajuana laws in Canada. If you have 20 grams or less(or is it 30?) on you for personal posession, then technically you cannot be charged with anything. It's all due to court cases regarding medicinal marajuana, and the supreme court rulings. Check out www.pottv.com There's tons of info there.
     
  19. hippychickmommy

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    As a parent, I must say, absolutely not. I do not have a problem with marijuana, I do however, have a problem condoning my 16 year old doing it.

    Most of you who believe that it's acceptable will feel the same as I do once you have children of your own I'm sure. It's a whole different story then. ;)

    Peace, love, and happiness.
     
  20. StarFaerie

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    "And some are harder drug dealers, "gawthicks", gang members, dropouts, and general losers. In schools, generally the smart kids don't do it. Sure there's exceptions, but it's pretty rare."

    Pretty rare? Everybody I knew in my advanced classes (you become fast friends when you're in all the same classes) smoked weed. LOL we toked together at study sessions and such all the time. People love to say mostly only idiots smoke, but it's ALWAYS people who don't smoke who say it. Because when you do smoke you realize it's like anything else, some people can handle it, and some people can't. I graduated in the top 20 percent of my class...and a lot of people I knew who smoked graduated somewhere up there...Pretty much weed has nothing to do with all that, unless you are already a little slow.

    "As a parent, I must say, absolutely not. I do not have a problem with marijuana, I do however, have a problem condoning my 16 year old doing it.
    Most of you who believe that it's acceptable will feel the same as I do once you have children of your own I'm sure. It's a whole different story then."

    Well, I do have a baby, and I don't want him being in dangerous situations because he has to sneak around to smoke pot. If your child is going to do it, you condoning it or not condoning it will do absolutely nothing. I know because I was a teen not too long ago. It's just the way it is. You can let your children be open with you, and KNOW what they're doing, or you can just say you don't allow it and assume they're not doing it while they're in a bad neighborhood buying weed from a dealer who mostly deals crack and is very persuasive! Basically your choices are letting your kids be open with you, or being in denial. The choices aren't 'let them' or 'don't let them' (we all wish it was but it's not!), it's 'know they're safe' or 'wonder if they're safe' Plus, if you're reasonable about some things like weed, they might actually listen if you tell them alcohol poisoning is easy to get..and die from....or whatever
     

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