Would you do something you knew was wrong

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by bluesafire, Feb 11, 2009.

  1. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    and could hurt and/or kill innocent people if your employer told you to do it?

    I was just reading about the salmonella outbreak in a Georgia plant and how the owner "defiantely" told his employees to release the products that he knew were tainted. Now he's pleading the 5th. :rolleyes:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29138430?GT1=43001

    Anyway, I think personally if it were me I'd refuse to obey that order. I know it's not always a black & white situation and when people depend on a job for survival it's very easy to look the other way. I sympathize with the guys that followed the orders. I just don't think I could go through with it myself. How about you guys?
     
  2. Wiseman

    Wiseman Senior Member

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    I want to say that there's no way on Earth that I'd do that, but I'm a pushover, so I'm afraid that I would.
     
  3. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I wouldn't need a job bad enough to do people harm for money.If employed there ,I would have squealed like a pig on the company.
     
  4. dixie_pixy

    dixie_pixy HighMandi

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    My Ethics teacher was discussing this very thing today. We were talking about morals and such.

    But, that's such bullshit. I would so be a whistle blower. I mean really, most people hate their bosses and would only do such a thing if they were fucking him and had been promised immunity if it ever came out. I never like my bosses, I'm the first to say fire the mother fucker!
     
  5. nakedtreehugger

    nakedtreehugger craaaaaazy

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    i would absolutely not follow those orders. when i went into healthcare and healing, i took it very seriously when i promised to always do my utmost to help others, and to first do no harm. i know it's officially only the physician's code of ethics, but i feel it applies to everyone, and i uphold it, regardless. i could never knowingly follow orders that would cause someone harm like that. i just couldn't.
     
  6. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Never. I don't think.

    Does working in a tylenol factory count as hurting people if someone overdoses on the stuff? Am I killing someone if I advertise cigarette brands in my newspaper?
     
  7. nakedtreehugger

    nakedtreehugger craaaaaazy

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    i think no, in those situations. of course, it's just my opinion, but with the tylenol and the cigarettes, it's common knowledge that overdosing can hurt and kill you, and that cigarettes have harmful health effects. it's still people's choices whether or not to do so.

    with the OP case, it means saying nothing, and allowing people to THINK something is safe when really it's not. if you were telling kids cigarettes are good for you, or telling people you can take as much tylenol as you want, that would be a different matter. IMO.
     
  8. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    i've already proven to my own satisfaction that i would no go along to get along. my sense of ethics and my conscience are way too powerful. it's like i get frozen in place and just start arguing.
     
  9. Greengirl

    Greengirl Senior Member

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    i would never do anything that somebody else is telling me to, but i already did something i know is wrong. At least i know it was my decision and i am the one to blame
    i strongly dislike to obey orders except my own. i am the one and only person in the world who i`m listening to
     
  10. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    i want to say no i would not. but not having been in said situation, it's hard to say.

    most people want to say no to this question, but the milgram experiment and the stanford prison experiment demonstrate the capacity of an average, normal human being to commit acts of brutality they never would have imagined themselves capable of, just because they were following orders. real life situations have confirmed the conclusions of these experiments time and again.

    i'd like to think i'm different and could never knowingly do something to deliberately harm another person simply because i'm told to, but depending on the situation who knows. i might.
     
  11. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    i've lost friends for good over refusing to go along. i've taken beatings over refusing to just go along. i think i've proven myself pretty capable of sticking to my guns.
     
  12. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    i'm pretty confident i wouldnt. i just can't say for sure.

    idk :confused:
     
  13. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Id shoot the boss in the face with a gun
     
  14. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    it's really one of those things you just won't know until you've been tested. and there's nothing wrong with that. i'd call you very fortunate indeed. either it's through picking the right people to be around, which would indicate being a good judge of character, or not allowing yourself to be in positions where you'd have to choose, which is excellent foresight. unfortunately, the unlucky ones can't always pick their families and where they live. so that third bit there makes you lucky fortunate, i think.
     
  15. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    nerf, water, or paintball?
     
  16. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    Something like that would easily be traced right back to you. The owner was an idiot.
     
  17. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    No, I'm sure I would refuse to obey that order. For moral reasons of course, not for fucking my boss over like some deluded person here said.
     
  18. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    and yeah, in specifics, i am enough of a cold blooded bitch to put people outta work by being a whistle-blower. i've done it before, i'd do it again.
     
  19. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    A shotgun :coolgleamA:
    That way I can be all up close and personal when the face explodes and gets blood on my cool glasses
     
  20. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    oh hell, what's a few cases of salmonella here and there when there's all those people who were still drawing a paycheck?
     

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