would u agree with this? Rant warning rofl

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  1. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    There will always be people who are dying. There will always be people who are mourning. There will always be people who are starving. There will always be who are in pain. In my opinion, this means there will never be peace.

    Neither inner peace nor worldly peace cannot exist as long as there are people suffering.

    Of course, that's just how I feel about it. My definition of peace differs from your's, apparently.
     
  2. thedope

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    Do you have peace.
     
  3. onesublimesister

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    The actual process of life is peaceful. These things you describe are part of peace. It's not all daisies and puppies.

    I understand your definition of peace, but don't be discouraged. It can happen. I do it every day, and it spreads to those I'm around.
     
  4. onesublimesister

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    Oh, and when I'm NOT peaceful, that spreads to others, too.
     
  5. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I don't agree with this at all, personally. Life isn't peaceful, and it's not supposed to be. The world is full of negativity, and no matter how hard you try, you can't prevent that negativity from touching your life.

    Momentary peace is possible, but there is no way it can last forever. Something always ends up happening to cause negative emotions/thoughts/feelings/actions.
     
  6. onesublimesister

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    You can prevent negativity from touching your life if you don't consider it to be negativity, but just as a part of life.

    I had today, possibly one of the worst days in a looooong time. Stress up the wazoo... I could have gone all drama queen and made the whole experience worse. But, instead, I chose peace and didn't freak out. Most times things get negative because of the reaction we give or get. Just learn how to react peacefully.

    I respect your opinion on this. I do. I never had the foggiest idea what peace entailed. Thought it was impossible. I have found that it's not true. If you know peace, it's peaceful.

    If you don't like what you see, change your perspective. It's still reality, and it's your reality.
     
  7. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I appreciate where you're coming from, and I understand what you're saying.

    I still disagree with you though. lol I can react peacefully all day, but the peaceful reaction is almost always in spite of internal conflict. Internal conflict implies a lack of inner peace.
     
  8. 90 paces west

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    I'd have to agree... Strongly
    :)
     
  9. thedope

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    You cannot act peaceful, peace comes in laying aside the conflict, recognizing it is not necessary.
     
  10. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    You can perform peaceful acts and do peaceful things, even when you're not feeling quite so peaceful, emotionally.

    There is no way to "lay aside" internal/emotional conflict. You can only work through it, and even then, other things will happen to cause more emotional conflict. It's a cycle, and it's part of life.
     
  11. onesublimesister

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    lol.... and I so appreciate your indulgence with me in this conversation. :)

    Your internal conflict is probably due to our culturalization. There is no profit in peace, so many people are trying to make sure we don't have it. I'm not going to continue to let that happen to me. It's happening to you, and I hope you'll resolve your conflict. It's not your fault.

    *goes back to hugging her tree*
     
  12. EnergyofInfinity

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    Its such a simple concept, but for some it proves to be the biggest challenge.

    Through my observation I have seen many people who are unsatisfied and would like to change there "personal-reality" though when they encounter the challenges needed to progress in change they step back. "its too much, too difficult." or " Im too old now, i can't change. These are just mental blocks. To truly change you need to set your intentions and use every last bit of willpower to follow through and manifest your vision. But through this whole process you can't have the expectation of a certain out come. If it doesn't follow through exactly the way you expected you will feel "defeated" and this makes it so much harder to keep on going.

    If I look at some of the "heavy" smokers I know they try to end the cycle of continuously smoking, but after they have given into an urge and smoke they get down on themselves and say, " I just can't do it." This could be perceived as negativity yes, and thus negativity hinders or halts progress.
     
  13. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    I think hippies are a bit naive and noble with no real grounding in pragmatic solutions in the current geo political world, or real understanding of anything.
     
  14. onesublimesister

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    I call it "lazy brain" syndrome. It's easier to stay in your rut where it's comfortable than it is to get uncomfortable with the unfamiliar. Facing yourself and the fears is the best peace I've found so far.

    lol.... I smoke weed aaaaaall day. I don't beat myself up over it, but I sure know people who do. I just wanna tell them it's ok....
     
  15. thedope

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    Peace is a state of mind and this state of mind can accommodate any activity. Peace is not an act, non violence is an act, attending to the sick is an act. Our emotions respond to our interpretations, the narrative we speak to ourselves regarding events. If one would learn to tell the truth about himself and the world, there would be no inner conflict. If you do not know peace for yourself, then your definition must be lacking.
     
  16. DazedGypsy

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    wow what a blanket statement
     
  17. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    My internal conflict is due to bad luck and bad decisions, as well as the knowledge that everyone has their own pain and misfortune. Life isn't perfect, and my precious few moments of peace wouldn't even be worth experiencing if the rest of my life wasn't full of various hardships. I appreciate the negativity, because it makes the positivity that much sweeter:)

    hahaha Don't let that tree give you a splinter:tongue:
     
  18. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    It's true though if we're talking hippy in the cliche sense

    Like Americans are fat is a true statement. It's a blanket statement over a country of 310 million people that stretches 4,000 miles each way, but it still holds some truth

    besides i take most of my viewpoint from arguing politics in the politics section here
     
  19. DazedGypsy

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    my bad i didn't know you've talked to millions of hippies

    that's a poor metaphor.
     
  20. onesublimesister

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    uuuuuuh wha?

    No, hippies are willing to accept that there really IS a simple solution, but we keep getting beaten down by the ones who profit from keeping it too complicated.
     

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