Would a ban on all public religious representations and displays ease religious hatreds and violence

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by GreatestIam, May 2, 2019.

  1. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    I do not have that book.

    Quote what you have and indicate if it is based on fact or just opinion please.

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  2. "Herbert Ruthersford has shown in his book 'War on Secularism' that atheists are not exempt from religious violence." - Dorothy Lundgrum
     
  3. GreatestIam

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    I agree with that but that is not what you indicated in your reply that said the violence would increase.

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  4. Oh, that was just my opinion.
     
  5. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Thank you.

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  6. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    Yes , as like an alien abductee . Relax . It'd be nice if you'd write us a story .
    If there's a riddle in the middle that's ok .
     
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  7. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    Once again, you are sweeping in your assumptions and judgments. At least one Anglican woman priest was arrested - so the charge of misogyny, whilst it can be levelled at some Christians, seems wide of the mark in this instance. I doubt many of the Christians on the protest were particularly homophobic.
     
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  8. GreatestIam

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    You are a poor judge.

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  9. GreatestIam

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    Yes, but just.

    While you look for the few exemptions to the rule and would allow evil to grow.

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  10. tikoo

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    I encourage you to write with more soul , relating less to literalism and more to literature . Got a story ? Your soul is not in judgment .
     
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  11. themnax

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    if it were that easy, it would have been done a long time ago.
    has to and can't are never the only possibilities about anything.
    if there is a solution it is for people to realize this,
    and that it isn't that anything can't exist, its that whatever does, owes nothing, to what people tell each other.
    religions are born of despiration to discourage bullying. as soon as they get a following they are twisted into everything else.
    in no way does this relate to the possible existence of god-like beings.
    completely seperate and unrelated questions.
    people demanding that their way has to be are annoying, a nusance and a menace when they rob others of their own imaginations and their own thoughts.

    we can imagine anything and that's fine and wonderful and we can observe strangeness and that is too.
    but it doesn't depend upon us to define.

    step back from all the crap humans try to lay on each other, and that includes what we try to tell each other about strangeness.
    take a look at dust and trees, at every thing that grows in the wild without our hand or mind.

    find a nice flat rock to sit on. this is more real then any word, spoken, written or carved in stone.

    i like to see displays of imaginary worlds, WITHOUT brand name flavors of belief being inescapably blatant about them.
    without blatant symbolism of brand name flavors of beliefs. because they're cleche's and repetitious and that is no good for the health of the mind of anyone.
    we live in a diverse universe and that is the nature of it, not some militant hierarchy at constant and pointless war.

    so how about it? odd little houses and gardens and trains, and forested mountains.
    and cats. we could do worse then call cats sacred.
    and instead of criticizing anyone for THEIR imaginary friends,
    anyone's are as likely as anyone else's.

    just because books have been around for a long time.
    books are printed because publishers can sell them.
    nothing to do with truth or lack of it.
     
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  12. GreatestIam

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    I see that we will discus much. Not.

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  13. tikoo

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    So what. Your throw of the discus as far as it goes lands on your own toe . Try golf .
    Themnax has made a nice post . I read it as literature . Hope it goes to print .
     
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  14. Visexual

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    I agree that some people need religion but that doesn't mean they should try to make everyone else need it. I remember a guy who worked for me in the car business years ago. He heard that I was an atheist and asked me about it. I confirmed it to him. I'll never forget him asking me why, if I needed money, I didn't just steal it? And then he asked why I didn't just rape a woman if I had the hots for her? I simply looked at him and smiled saying, "I sure glad you're a Christian">
     
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    Driftrue Banned

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    I love this sentence for some reason. I wrote it down in my notebook so I can come across it again.
     
  16. tikoo

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    Oh , to be rescued from literalism . Tikoo , by the way , is not my name . T points to ikoo .
    What is T ? sassafras tea is sweet like desire

    Tikoo - It is said to have originated from the 'Trika'. The members of this family were special devotees of the goddess 'Tripura'.
    An ancestor of this family adopted a non-Brahman boy who was deemed to have become a Brahman
    by a Tika (a sacred mark on the forehead of a Brahman). He and his descendants were later nicknamed as Tiku.
     
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  18. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    When we say 'all public religious representations' does that mean that here in the UK we'd have to demolish 'grade A' medieval listed buildings, like our beautiful medieval cathedrals and churches,some going back to pre-Norman times?
    That would be an act of sheer vandalism on a par with, if not worse than the excesses of ISIS. But you can't leave them there and pretend they weren't built for religious purposes, nor can they be easily disguised.
     
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  19. bft4evr

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    I do not believe it would. Forcing something underground does not make it go away.

    There is also the issue of legality. In the US the 1st 10 amendments to the Constitution are called the bIll of Rights. Among those rights are freedom of speech, freedom of religion (implying freedom not to have one), and freedom of assembly.

    Banning religion would be blatantly unconstitutional.
     
  20. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I believe we are talking about governmental displays of religious icons, etc., not private ones, or public displays by religions.
     

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