Womens Issues

women are mother earth, the creators, constantly walking around with a potential new person inside of them.
r. e. s. p. e. c. t. my boys!

 

we're not pregnant all the time, but if you're referring to the potentiality of life (ovum), men have the same (sperm). and men are creators, too. we're just the ones whoo carry the babies and feed them.

 

Respect for the fellas. boom shaka!

 

It's hard for me to understand what you mean unless you tell me what surprises you. As for myself, I use to underestimate the need many women feel for security. All other social differences tend to be tied to that, somehow.

I also identified a lot of things that I generalize to womanhood in general which are not universal. It's a matter of selective memory, and dismissing the same behavior when it occurs in men as "not what men do".

When I'm level-headed enough to take those things into consideration, women don't seem like such a mystery to me after all.

Making a freak mystery out of women is the flip side of putting them on a pedestal. And I find it better to just think of them as human beings like other human beings, but keeping in mind that men and women have different needs tied to their respective reproductive roles.

 

Making a freak mystery out of women is the flip side of putting them on a pedestal. And I find it better to just think of them as human beings like other human beings, but keeping in mind that men and women have different needs tied to their respective reproductive roles.

I think this is a very good attitude to have. Clinging to stereotypes only causes problems, and doesn't help with understanding. Regarding the "different needs" ... we don't have different needs as human beings. We want to be accepted and loved, just like you do. Beyond that, the similarities are greater than the differences. I think it's a matter of observing and learning. And respect.

I have no problem with the idea that men and women will always be somewhat of a mystery to each other. But hey, this is what we got. You can get all upset and complain about the other gender, or you can try your best to understand what you can, and accept the rest.

Men can be strange sometimes. So can women. So what? That's how it is.

 

This is not so unusual for men, either. It's called testosterone. I mean, I have a habit of punching holes through electronic appliances that I purchased with my own hard-earned money in moments of frustration. Not exactly what you would call rational behavior.

 

Damn, I guess it's true. Testosterone does decrease with age.I havent put my fist through anything in a long long time.

 

i think you are wrong. men are continually left in the dark about women, and its nearly impossible to get a real coed conversation going without awkwardness. women talk to each other, and usually have more interest in how things work (but that could just be me).

i agree with this, but i add to it. there is safety in numbers. no one likes to walk through the restaurant toward the bathroom, because deep down, they know that everyone knows where they are going. its a self conscious reaction to a situation that is uncomfortable

i think you are conceited. everyone is a creator, just try to make a baby with that egg if you have no access to sperm. but then you are young, you'll learn.

i think most of these things are tied to the past. when we (as a species) developed a different kind of brain, we started to take longer to become functioning. when an antelope is born, it can run almost immediately, because it has to. when our distant ancestors started moving together in groups it afforded them a greater measure of safety. with that came new changes, and a longer length of time until crawling/ walking/ foraging could be mastered. further yet is hunting. women can hunt, but you don't move too fast when you are 7 months pregnant, so you have to be protected. men don't have the baby, so at least during that time the women had to be taken care of. but humans take a long time to develop, learning to walk, talk and learn, and someone needs to take care of them until they know the fire is hot, this plant makes you sick, and so on. i think thats a part of why women move in groups (for safety, from wild animals and scary men) and why women have less social stigma on them to remain aloof. women cling together, asking questions and learning through necessity. if you have to live in close quarters like our ancestors did, you have to communicate and work together to learn. there was no one else to learn from, only each other.

deep down we still have instincts. love is explained this way as well. love makes the man want to protect the woman and child, it IS security. if we didn't want to take care of each other, how would our women and children survive?
I may have missed a point in there, but i find that men are interested in how women work, because they have never had an opportunity to learn. sex ed in not co ed, and its a travesty.

 

Yes!! Gotta love a smart woman who knows her anthropology!

 

i was talking about me. not about men. :cheers2:

 

men have periods, too, they just don't vacillate quite as wildly as women. so all those times you get into an argument with a woman who's "on the rag" or "pms-ing," if you're around her long enough, add are good you're "on the rag" or "pms-ing," too. so it's not really all HER fault.

just for future reference.

 

my dad has an 8-10 week cycle, he gets all moody, yells a lot, and argues with my mom. we are used to it by now

and thank you caliente! i appreciate the compliment. i just likie to know how and why we are the way we are. recently i saw a nat geo special (or discovery science, i dont remember) about how we are made of viruses that changed our physiology. if you ever catch it watch, it was impressive, but i don't remember all the details atm.

 

@ mothers love - clever lady! im also a believer that the way people act now is directly because of how our ancestors acted. ie, subconciously people are attracted to a mate because of the scent or whatever. i fully agree with your idea that women go the loo in groups because of the safety factor =]

@ mamaKC - its truuuuue. the blokes at college dont believe me when i say they have 'periods' too, they always go on at us for being moody, but it happens to them aswell

 

lol wtf im not conceited, i am quite aware of how a baby is made.... i am sorry to have respected women, i am sorry to have thought of them as wonderful givers of life, love and comfort, ill try not to do it again..

 

well, gee. i guess respect no longer needs to be earned then. it is arrogant and conceited to demand (or even imply an obligation of) respect based on gender. thats discriminatory. not all women deserve respect, and you certainly can't say "Men- respect all women because of the circumstance of their birth." because that would be exactly the same as "Women- get your ass in the kitchen and make me a sandwich, because of my penis."

you are more than welcome to respect women, but think before you type. there is no logic to it.

 

I guess there is a difference between respecting women and putting them on a pedestal. Women cannot give life on their own, after all. It takes both a woman and a man to tango.

 

well, technically, two men can tango. but they can't create a baby.

*snicker*

 

EDIT: I wish I could delete my post.

 

Good point.

 

I never really got it... I mean, I never really understood why men and women feel so clueless about each other. True, a man can never know what it feels like to menstruate. And a woman can't understand what it feels like to be a man either.
But aside from the physical aspect of it... I don't really think men and women are as different as everyone has to chalk it up to be.

To me, a good portion of it just has to do with the way society has stereotyped each sex. The way society acts as if men don't have as vast of an emotional map as women do... that's total bullshit. Most of the men I've dated have WAY outdone me in that department. And along with society, those stereotypes have caused each sex to have separate "issues"---Women have more issues with weight for example, because society likes to focus on the figure of a woman, and beauty. Where a man might have more issues discussing emotions, NOT because he doesn't experience them on a deep level, BUT because he was taught that boys don't cry.

And... I don't know, it all makes sense to me.

I have trouble understanding people sometimes...but it's never because they're the opposite sex. I have a lack of understanding for other females, just as much as I do men.

Just my two cents :-D