Women in Combat

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The lack of privacy is actually the only part of this that wouldn't bother me. If we could only get both sides to get rid of all the weapons and turn it into a big camping trip...

 

So you not only have an issue with females on the front line but men on the front line too?

(I've heard there is no such thing as the front line - but we know what we mean)

 

I can't explain a goddamn thing in a way that you can understand it.

 

Women in combat can be attributed to feminism and weemen who claim they want to be equal to men. Congratulations -- your wishes have come true.

 

women are equal to men. A woman should be able to do any job a man can do, as long as they meet the requirements for the job. If the requirements for being a firefighter include carrying a 200 lb man down a ladder then any woman that can do that and meet the other requirements should be considered for the job.

Our species has plenty of fertile women, we don't need to protect them all. If a woman wants to be in the infantry why can't they? For the sake of modesty? Turn the other way. Furthermore a woman tough enough to serve in combat could propbably care less about what kind of penis you have and also could probably care less if you stare at her boobs while she showers.

The only restriction should be the same for any job; no sexual relationships between co-workers, that could get messy in so many ways.

If women serve in combat there can be no double standard, women cannot justifiably be discriminated against based on their gender if they can fight and die for their country.

The US Army was the first institution in the US to integrate. Why? Because black men showed they could be just as good in combat as white men. Within two decades we had the Civil Rights movement.

Let the women serve. All women will benefit.

 

Wrong. It is not likely that because she's tough enough to serve in combat she's not a woman anymore.

 

we just double that amount of draftable bodies

 

LOL.....hell with the ratio of men to women, yep there would be plenty of opportunities for that. A new military perk.

 

Maybe. It's just one minute you are saying that women should be able to do what they want. Then you say (I think) that women shouldn't be on the 'frontline', and then spin scenarios I think is unlikely.
Then you say you are a peace lovin' war hatin' soul, and wouldn't it be nice if camp Bastion was a holiday camp rather than a forward operating base.
It's a bit difficult to see where you are coming from : /
My last question might have been a tad brash - but that's what I thought it boiled down to: You don't want soldiers anywhere - male or female.

 

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Me too. You have an opinion, too - which is what I was trying to figure out : /

 

No, they're not equal to men. They aren't nor should they be. I do agree they should have equal opportunities to do what they want, though. And they do.

Men and women are very biologically and psychologically different. Obviously men and women are equal in that both are human beings and should be treated with equal respect. But to say that men and women are equal, or should be equal (in the way radical feminism wants it to be), and that any woman can do the same things a man can do, is just absurd. I feel that a woman should be able to do whatever it is she wants, but I believe feminist indoctrination often forces women in to unnatural roles, such as serving in combat. Killing other humans isn't natural for men, but it especially isn't natural for women, who are biologically wired to be mothers and nurturers.

But this is just one more of many examples of how feminism has been used by the powerful few to turn everything on its head, confusing gender roles and breaking down the role of families in society to make people more dependent on the state. This is one of the primary reasons the CIA funded the rise of popular feminism in the 60s. It's no wonder why so many men and women hate each other these days, because they have been conditioned this way. But I digress. That is more or less a side point to the main issue.

 

I'm all for equality, it's about time the States did this. I want women to have the same opportunity as men to kill poor brown people.

 

I never said women can do anything a man can do.

Women should have the same opportunities, should not be discriminated against based on their gender and should not be treated poorly if they act or speak in a way that you feel is 'unladylike'.

The truth is there aren't a lot of women big enough and strong enough to carry a 200 lb man down a ladder but if there is a woman who can she shouldn't be barred from applying to the Fire Academy just because she is a woman. If a woman weighed 300 lbs and could bench press 500 lbs and wanted to play football she should be allowed to do that.

In our Section V athletics (Upstate NY) girls can wrestle. I have only seen two. Last week one of my son's teammates (they're in 7th & 8th grade) went up against a girl. She was a short stocky girl with great big boobs and she really didn't have a chance of winning and the poor boy wrestling her was clearly embarrassed every time he grabbed a hold of one of her boobs. It was actually cringing to watch.

But that little girl never gave up and fought back again and again, breaking out of holds, escaping from headlocks. By the 3rd period half the crowd, including some of the parents of our wrestlers were cheering for her. I was actually on the point of tears and as the father of a 6th grade girl I thought how proud I would have been if she were my daughter.

The entire match was emotionally challenging and difficult to get through but I guarantee everyone who saw it came out a better person.

If girls and women are denied those opportunities we all lose. I have a wife and a daughter (and a son who I am immensely proud of). My wife is one of the toughest people I know. In 2006 she earned a Master's degree in Business Administration while working 60 hours a week and raising 2 small kids. During that time I was in the ICU for 3 weeks with a life threatening illness and her favorite Aunt died. She earned that degree despite the fact that the only career she has ever had is as a Registered Nurse. She took a statistics class for that degree despite being really bad at math.

My wife is a goddess; wife, mother, nurse. She works her ass off and still makes awesome dinners and keeps a loving home. She makes sure the kids do their home work and she makes time for us. She is beautiful and sexy and when she comes home in her nice suits and dresses with her beautifully done hair and makeup I am in awe and can't believe I get to be married to such an amazing person. It is why I cannot stand reading posts about people with open relationships or women who have had lots and lots of sex partners because I would never share such a wonderful woman with anyone and because I am the only husband, was the only the boyfriend, am the only man who ever brought her to orgasm. I only wish I could have come to our relationship as inexperienced as she was.

I never considered myself a feminist until I had a daughter. That experience has totally transformed me, opened my eyes. It has made me worship my wife and come to accept my sister's life as a lesbian.

Don't sell yourself short. Us men should be nice to women, they're going to rule the world before you know it.

 

I've only read pages 1 and 10 in this thread, so far.

But I just had to say that I'd be more than happy to have Women protecting my butt during any combat situation.

And I would fight extra hard to keep them from harm also.

 

In general, I have a vague feeling that feminism is on the verge of going too far, pushing changes that are going to bite us in the ass someday, one way or another. I'm not 100% sure, but this might turn out to be that one step too far.

People like to have options available to them, but options have a nasty habit of becoming requirements. For example, in just two generations, we've gone from "married women can't have a career" to "all women have to have a career". I think my mother's generation got the best deal. For them, working was optional.

There is an old country song (Kenny Rogers - The Gambler) that talks about an important key to winning at anything; having enough good sense to know when you've achieved your goal, when the time has come to GTFO. Americans suck at this. Once we start pushing things in a certain direction, we have to play it out as far as we can go, no matter how stupid the situation becomes. It's like a gambler who can't leave the casino until all his winnings have been lost. Then he wants to blame the casino, or bad luck, or anybody but himself.

You see, this is exactly what the Army doesn't need to deal with. I'll bet a lot of guys will be like this in combat, and it will get more of them killed.

Oddly enough, I agree with this point. I think this is the first time we've ever agreed on anything, in my four years here.

This past week has been very strange for me. On this issue, I've found myself agreeing mostly with hardcore right wing men, which absolutely never happens to me. Nobody on the left seems to be able to think of even one bad thing that might ever come from this new policy.

I'm sure a lot of liberals don't want to risk offending butch lesbians who wanted this change, but if this ends up doing little more than doubling the available bodies to serve the interests of oil companies, defense contractors, and international banks, then a lot of people on the left are going to realize after it's too late that they've been played.

 

I have to disagree here a lil bit,

I ran from a woman once who had her war face on.

And that's the kind of woman I would want by my side in a battle any day.

 

You can't have it both ways. Either women are equal under the law or they are not. You can't claim that women are equal in all areas but one.

We have an all volunteer military. If a woman ends up in combat it is because she wants to.