WOMAN asks me to hang out/sets up day/date --

Then flakes herself. I swear you cannot make this up. I'd really love to know all the horrible things I did and how I am being biased against women here.

I met her @ some social event thing. Stopped her on her way out. Said hello/introduced each other. Traded names on paper (so cute) and later added each other on facebook. W somewhat casual plans to try and hang out.

Saw her a couple weeks later at similar event. Said hi. Spent more time talking. I mentioned we should get drinks/hang. She says ok. Just friendly stuff and I left it at that.

A week or so later I'm thinking she had a couple drinks and felt brave and since I wasn't hitting her up asked to hang herself! I foolishly smiled & obliged.

 

**Last part. ROLLINGSTONE and haters please stay away from thread. Not looking to bash but to get perspective on this.*

--I figured the last one was kind of a heavy message. & it Would take a while till she had the balls to respond. Next afternoon I guess i decided I didn't want to wait and it was time to press some honest issues.

*blocked her*


:daisy: This is woman 70% of the time. I understand human nature makes us want what we can't have and not want what we do, but holy christ how is one supposed to get anything done under those behaviors?

Should I just have STFU'd and hoped and prayed she gave me the 3 hrs next time? Keep begging her for more?

I think if a girl asks me out next time I'm going with

"ya you're lying." or "cool -END TEXT." or I bet even saying "NO" HAS BETTER CHANCES.


Ladies (and men) explain yourselves. This was my weekend. :daisy:

 

I don't think ladies (or men) have anything to explain. Out of all these shitty experiences you have had, what is the one common thread throughout them all?

 

women.

 

And you....

 

lol oh please. Let's not get into that yet. I wrote explicitly everything I did. Please show me the horror.

vs the girl who tells me she has a bf over a month & a half later? and flips on her plans? Ya I'm so horrible.

The one common trait is girls really do not respond to anything but petty reverse-psychology and they puss out when it matters most. This is always why the barking curt asshole will get more results than anyone else.


This is why 'game' exists. To manipulate incapable people.


Or they are even more evil and vicious than you can imagine and it's all behind the scenes. Meanwhile you bash me.

There's another chic who flirted with me for a couple months. When I ask her out (she has a long-distance bf) "but we've only known each other for a couple months."

fine. So I leave her be and we don't talk anymore. Months pass. Guess who wants my attention again now?

Ya really gonna blame me here? F off.

 

I never accused you of being horrible, nor am I bashing you or blaming you for anything. Relax.

Perhaps you need to take a look in the mirror, or take a step back and evaluate the type of girl you find yourself constantly pursuing. If you got burned a couple times you could write it off as bitches being bitches. From the way you make it sound, though, it appears to be pervasive when it comes to the women you pursue.

 

Yes

You seem to expect women to feel a certain way just because you want them to. And you get all pissy way too easily. Relax. Learn to be casual friends with women and your love life will improve. Learn to look at them as human beings and not just a target for your desire.

 

Its too fast and high expectations. I see wanting to solidify it early on so you can avoid the games. But people go at different paces. Be patient, slow down. This girl is being honest.

 

lol op will never learn

 

You come across as needy and waayyy to "easy" and desperate.
Regardless of what they say, most women like to do a bit of chasing/seducing themselves, and when you constantly act like an eager little puppy, a lot of women will shy away.


Koku, you don't need a girlfriend, once you settle on that, things will go better.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8QiSsZlJzY"]Grateful Dead - Loser - YouTube

:love:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqDbb7-dn9A"]Snuff Box - Boyfriend sketches - YouTube

 

accepting a date = eager.

keeping a conversation going with a chic = eager to solidify.

there was a girl I didn't do that with (at all) btw. text her the day of only to hear an excuse.

very sure it was because I didn't contact her at all and she felt I was not interested/date would not go well.

so it's a giant bag of lies & social-play and who can convince the other they are only a little bit interested.

 

learn what. How dare I tell her 'thx for the invite. <3 happy u asked. see u then."

Oh the horror. The needy little prick.

 

I pursue with honesty and whatever and it always gets taken as needy, easy, and cheap. It's never reciprocated or understood or respected.

To live in this society, I should learn to give a IDGAF attitude before dates.

:2thumbsup:

 

Asking to chill and hang out is NOT a date. It's chilling and hanging out.
It may surprize you that women and men can be friends and that's OK.
She wanted to chill and you wanted a date.
How about asking for a date, right off the bat , mr 'honesty'
When you finally got around to saying you wanted a real date, she told you up front No.

Your problem is you saw something else when she just wanted to chill.

 

Whatever you say man.

 

i told her she was cute, i liked her, and wanted to see her more. I couldn't have been any more obvious. After all this info, she asked to hang out together, us two, like we discussed. :|

People call it hanging out to make it more casual.

Had she had shown up, I would have totally seen it as friends meeting for the POTENTIAL of something more.

first y'all say I was too heavy, now you're saying I should've been like "is this a date? I want a date. is this a date?"

whatever happened to plain manners. you say you're gonna be somewhere -- show. If you don't. Fucking tell the person and cancel.


It gets silly as fuck when being up front with your interest for a person becomes the same infatuation you get crucified over. Don't worry -- I'll try to be a better liar next time. :daisy:

 

Well mate, it probably lies in the details. I agree that it is likely you come across as too needy/eager for them. Not all women dislike that at all, but perhaps in combination with how you communicate it (possibly both verbal and nonverbal) they might back out. After all, they all have associations and expectations just like you.

Even when you didn't ment it like that, I can imagine a person taking this as too eager for sure:

"why don't you be my girlfriend?
I can give you a great date or two first. I am interested in that. tell me how you feel."

So, what if you aren't communicating as you think you are irl moments too? I know I get misinterpreted from time to time, and it's rarely expected from my side until pointed out

I'm afraid it looks like this to me too.